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From: "Gupta, Pekon" <pekon@ti.com>
To: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
Cc: "angus.clark@st.com" <angus.clark@st.com>,
	"kernel@stlinux.com" <kernel@stlinux.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	"computersforpeace@gmail.com" <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
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Subject: RE: [RFC 13/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: provide Device Tree support
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 10:32:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20980858CB6D3A4BAE95CA194937D5E73EACBC8F@DBDE04.ent.ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140509100304.GR5767@lee--X1>

>From: Lee Jones [mailto:lee.jones@linaro.org]
>
>> >> >+	of_property_read_u32(np, "st,bch-bitflip-threshold",
>> >> >+			     &pdata->bch_bitflip_threshold);
>> >> >+
>> >> mtd->bitflip_threshold is by default set to ecc.strength (unless a driver initializes it).
>> >> And then can be re-configured for each MTD partition separately
>> >> 	/sys/class/mtd/mtdX/bitflip_threshold
>> >> 	Refer: $kernel/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-class-mtd
>> >> So, I don't think this is a HW parameter, and so should not be passed from DT.
>> >
>> >I think the bit-flip threshold is/can be chip specific, and as we know
>> >which chip we're likely to be booting on, we can specify this via the
>> >hardware description.  Thus, I think it's perfectly viable for an
>> >option to pass through DT to exist.
>> >
>> I don't think that’s the correct interpretation of bitflip_threshold.
>>
>> (1) bitflip_threshold is dependent on ecc.strength (ECC scheme) of your driver.
>> MTD layers uses bitflip_threshold to warn above layers that number of
>> correctable bit-flips have reached a dangerous level beyond which driver's
>> ECC scheme may not be able to correct them. So above layers should start
>> taking additional corrective action like scrubbing.
>> 	@@drivers/mtd/mtdcore.c: mtd_read()
>> 		return ret_code >= mtd->bitflip_threshold ? -EUCLEAN : 0;
>>
>> (2) Also, user-space may control it based on how your device ages on field.
>> A fresh silicon may not show too many bitflips. But as device ages the
>> probability of simultaneous bitflips will increase. So user-space may lower
>> the bitflip_threshold to avoid accumulation of bitflips in a single page.
>>
>> Thus, bitflip_threshold should not be passed via DT.
>> It's neither a hardware parameter, nor it’s a static constant.
>
>Ah, I see.  I will fixup, thanks for the explanation.
>

Please wait, I'll review your [v2] series also, then you can further
send all fixes together. I'm bit caught in other commitments for 3.16,
so hopefully I'll be able to review your patches by next week.


with regards, pekon

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-09 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-25  8:19 [RFC 00/47] mtd: nand: Add new driver supporting ST's BCH h/w Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 01/47] mtd: nand: export useful functions from core driver Lee Jones
2014-03-25 12:57   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-03-25 14:58     ` Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 02/47] mtd: nand: add ONFI NAND Timing Mode Specifications Lee Jones
2014-03-25 17:01   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 03/47] mtd: nand: add shared register defines for ST's NAND Controller drivers Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 04/47] mtd: nand: adding ST's BCH NAND Controller driver Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 05/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: IRQ support for " Lee Jones
2014-03-26  7:10   ` Gupta, Pekon
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 06/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: change between BCH and Hamming modes Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 07/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: initialise the BCH Controller Lee Jones
2014-03-26 10:25   ` Gupta, Pekon
2014-04-30 10:22     ` Lee Jones
2014-04-30 10:59       ` Gupta, Pekon
2014-04-30 12:29         ` Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 08/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: supply clock support Lee Jones
2014-03-26  7:15   ` Gupta, Pekon
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 09/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: introduce and initialise some important data structures Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 10/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: initialise the Hamming Controller Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 11/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: add Power Management Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 12/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: scan for NAND devices Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 13/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: provide Device Tree support Lee Jones
2014-03-26  9:18   ` Gupta, Pekon
2014-04-30 12:54     ` Lee Jones
2014-05-05  6:55       ` Gupta, Pekon
2014-05-09 10:03         ` Lee Jones
2014-05-09 10:32           ` Gupta, Pekon [this message]
2014-05-09 10:38             ` Lee Jones
2014-05-19 14:02             ` Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 14/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: configure BCH and FLEX by ONFI timing mode Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 15/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: add compatible page size check Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 16/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: derive some working variables for latter use Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 17/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: automatically set EEC mode if requested Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 18/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: ensure configuration is compatible with this driver Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 19/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: configure BCH read/write/erase programs Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 20/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: initialise working buffers Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 21/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: provide shared BCH operations Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 22/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: check erased page for zeros Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 23/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: read and write page (BCH) Lee Jones
2014-03-26 10:17   ` Gupta, Pekon
2014-04-30 11:19     ` Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 24/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: find IBBT signature Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 25/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: bad block marking helpers Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 26/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: populate IBBT BCH Header Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 27/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: write IBBT to Flash Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 28/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: update flash-resident BBT(s) Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 29/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: add Hamming-FLEX operations Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 30/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: read and write raw (FLEX) Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 31/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: scan block for BBM(s) according to specified BBT options Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 32/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: scan for BBMs and build memory-resident BBT Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 33/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: search for and load flash-resident BBT Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 34/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: " Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 35/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: dump bad blocks Lee Jones
2014-03-25 12:53   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 36/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: parse partitions and register an MTD device Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 37/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: fetch the bit-flips threshold Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 38/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: check WP (FLEX) Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 39/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: read and write ops (FLEX) Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 40/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: MTD erase (BCH) Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 41/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: MTD mark and check for bad blocks (BCH) Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:19 ` [RFC 42/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: add read and write OOB (BCH) Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:20 ` [RFC 43/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: read and write functions (BCH) Lee Jones
2014-03-26 10:31   ` Gupta, Pekon
2014-04-30  9:19     ` Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:20 ` [RFC 44/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: MTD read and write (BCH) Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:20 ` [RFC 45/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: read and write buffers (FLEX) Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:20 ` [RFC 46/47] mtd: nand: mtd_nand_bch: add remaining FLEX functions Lee Jones
2014-03-25  8:20 ` [RFC 47/47] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: catch unsupported calls Lee Jones
2014-03-25 12:50 ` [RFC 00/47] mtd: nand: Add new driver supporting ST's BCH h/w Ezequiel Garcia
2014-03-25 13:11   ` Lee Jones
2014-03-25 22:00     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-03-26  7:28       ` Brian Norris
2014-03-27 10:28         ` Lee Jones
2014-04-01 11:29           ` Lee Jones
2014-04-10 20:00             ` Brian Norris
2014-04-30  9:57               ` Lee Jones

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