From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Cc: Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@suse.de>,
penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, bunk@stusta.de, rml@novell.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johnstul@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:29:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1140636588.2979.66.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060222191832.GA14638@suse.de>
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 11:18 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 10:59:23AM -0800, Joel Becker wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 06:33:54PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote:
> > > I don't think isnmod is broken. It's job is to load a chunk of code into
> > > the kernel, and it's doing just that.
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > But if your kernel has CONFIG_HOTPLUG enabled, then _you_ have asked for
> > > this exact behavior, therefore you should better fix userspace to cope
> > > with it. Your initrd should use the notification mechanisms provided by
> > > the kernel to wait for the would-be root device really becoming
> > > available; if it's not doing that, then IMHO you should not use a
> > > CONFIG_HOTPLUG enabled kernel.
> >
> > The issue isn't so much "insmod is right" vs "insmod is wrong".
> > It's that the behavior changed in a surprising fashion. Red Hat's
> > kernel for RHEL4 (in our example) has CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y, yet it Just
> > Works. A more recent kernel (.15 and .16 at least) with
> > CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y doesn't work. Same disk drivers. Same initramfs
> > script.
>
> RHEL is a very different kernel from mainline (just like SLES is). Have
> you looked through their patches to see if they are including something
> that causes this behavior?
I doubt it does; rhel isn't that much patches...
>
> What about trying a stock 2.6.6 or so kernel? Does that work
> differently from 2.6.15?
... however it's very much designed only for the kernel that comes with
it (with "it's" I mean all the userspace infrastructure); all the
changes and additions since 2.6.9 aren't incorporated so you probably
really want new alsa, new initscripts, new mkinitrd, new
module-init-tools. some because of abi changes since 2.6.9, others
because the kernel grew capabilities that are really needed for "nice"
behavior.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-22 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-17 22:45 Linux 2.6.16-rc4 Linus Torvalds
2006-02-17 23:14 ` 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions Adrian Bunk
2006-02-19 11:06 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-19 14:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-19 17:50 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-19 21:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-20 1:02 ` Greg KH
2006-02-20 7:08 ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-02-21 22:51 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-21 22:57 ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-21 23:33 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 0:04 ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-22 0:15 ` Mark Lord
2006-02-22 0:21 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 0:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 0:46 ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-22 1:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 11:21 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-22 14:25 ` uswsusp & initrd -- was " Pavel Machek
2006-02-22 15:48 ` Joel Becker
2006-02-22 16:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-22 17:33 ` Gabor Gombas
2006-02-22 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 18:37 ` Christian Trefzer
2006-02-22 18:59 ` Joel Becker
2006-02-22 19:18 ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 19:29 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2006-02-22 19:40 ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 20:45 ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-22 22:51 ` Greg KH
2006-02-23 6:39 ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-23 17:29 ` Martin Bligh
2006-02-23 17:52 ` Greg KH
2006-02-23 18:01 ` Martin Bligh
2006-02-23 18:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 20:26 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-24 23:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-22 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 20:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-22 20:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 20:44 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 20:26 ` Greg KH
2006-02-23 5:28 ` Jody McIntyre
2006-02-22 20:57 ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-22 21:19 ` Russell King
2006-02-22 21:30 ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 20:47 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-22 19:07 ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 17:06 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-23 12:36 ` Paulo Marques
2006-02-22 10:49 ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-22 7:06 ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-02-22 15:27 ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-22 15:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 16:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-22 16:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 17:17 ` sysfs regressions (was: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions) Matthias Andree
2006-02-22 17:47 ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 16:18 ` 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions David Zeuthen
2006-02-22 16:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 16:46 ` David Zeuthen
2006-02-22 16:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 17:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 17:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 18:04 ` Al Viro
2006-02-23 3:01 ` John Stoffel
2006-02-22 17:51 ` Al Viro
2006-02-22 17:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 18:10 ` Al Viro
2006-02-22 19:25 ` David Zeuthen
2006-02-22 17:10 ` Al Viro
2006-02-22 17:10 ` grundig
2006-02-22 17:14 ` Martin Bligh
2006-02-23 4:17 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-22 18:10 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-22 8:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-17 23:27 ` Linux 2.6.16-rc4 Nigel Cunningham
2006-02-18 8:59 ` Edmondo Tommasina
2006-02-18 9:19 ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-18 10:20 ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-18 11:26 ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-18 16:04 ` Jean Delvare
2006-02-22 22:02 ` Linux 2.6.16-rc4 edac oops Mark Rustad
2006-02-24 11:09 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 2:39 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions Yu, Luming
2006-02-22 3:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22 6:55 Yu, Luming
2006-02-22 12:23 ` Adrian Bunk
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