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From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: David Zeuthen <david@fubar.dk>, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@suse.de>,
	Pekka J Enberg <penberg@cs.Helsinki.FI>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Robert Love <rml@novell.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:04:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060222180423.GD27946@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602220915500.30245@g5.osdl.org>

On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:31:59AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Why the hell anybody would care about what the command transport type is, 
> when all that matters is that it's a block device, I don't understand. The 
> exact details of what kind of block device it is are totally secondary, 
> and shouldn't affect basic desktop behaviour.

Actually, it's not about transport, it's about command _set_.  So there
is legitimate userland code that would want to know that (especially since
a lot of external enclosures have incredibly brittle and crappy firmware
and go tits-up when they see anything they don't recognize), but
	a) the last thing that code wants is to have TYPE_RBC mislabeled
as TYPE_DISK and
	b) hal has nothing to do with that.

The only place where _transport_ enters the picture is that RBC is very common
in e.g. firewire-to-IDE bridges, so sbp2 had to deal with it somehow.  And
instead of teaching sd.c to deal with those (it's very easy) it went ahead
and just marked those as type 0 (disk).  Almost worked...

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-22 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-17 22:45 Linux 2.6.16-rc4 Linus Torvalds
2006-02-17 23:14 ` 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions Adrian Bunk
2006-02-19 11:06   ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-19 14:54     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-19 17:50       ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-19 21:14       ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-20  1:02         ` Greg KH
2006-02-20  7:08           ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-02-21 22:51           ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-21 22:57             ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-21 23:33               ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22  0:04                 ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-22  0:15                   ` Mark Lord
2006-02-22  0:21                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22  0:34                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22  0:46                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-22  1:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 11:21                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-22 14:25                           ` uswsusp & initrd -- was " Pavel Machek
2006-02-22 15:48                           ` Joel Becker
2006-02-22 16:25                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-22 17:33                               ` Gabor Gombas
2006-02-22 17:57                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 18:37                                   ` Christian Trefzer
2006-02-22 18:59                                 ` Joel Becker
2006-02-22 19:18                                   ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 19:29                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-22 19:40                                       ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 20:45                                         ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-22 22:51                                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-23  6:39                                             ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-23 17:29                                         ` Martin Bligh
2006-02-23 17:52                                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-23 18:01                                             ` Martin Bligh
2006-02-23 18:04                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 20:26                                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-24 23:42                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-22 19:39                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 19:54                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 20:02                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-22 20:12                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 20:44                                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 20:26                                     ` Greg KH
2006-02-23  5:28                                       ` Jody McIntyre
2006-02-22 20:57                                     ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-22 21:19                                     ` Russell King
2006-02-22 21:30                                       ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 20:47                             ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-22 19:07                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 17:06                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-23 12:36                         ` Paulo Marques
2006-02-22 10:49                   ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-22  7:06               ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-02-22 15:27                 ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-22 15:44                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 16:03                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-22 16:11                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 17:17                         ` sysfs regressions (was: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions) Matthias Andree
2006-02-22 17:47                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 16:18                     ` 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions David Zeuthen
2006-02-22 16:35                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 16:46                         ` David Zeuthen
2006-02-22 16:51                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 17:08                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 17:31                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 18:04                           ` Al Viro [this message]
2006-02-23  3:01                             ` John Stoffel
2006-02-22 17:51                         ` Al Viro
2006-02-22 17:55                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 18:10                             ` Al Viro
2006-02-22 19:25                         ` David Zeuthen
2006-02-22 17:10                       ` Al Viro
2006-02-22 17:10                       ` grundig
2006-02-22 17:14                       ` Martin Bligh
2006-02-23  4:17                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-22 18:10                   ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-22  8:28               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-17 23:27 ` Linux 2.6.16-rc4 Nigel Cunningham
2006-02-18  8:59 ` Edmondo Tommasina
2006-02-18  9:19   ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-18 10:20     ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-18 11:26       ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-18 16:04 ` Jean Delvare
2006-02-22 22:02 ` Linux 2.6.16-rc4 edac oops Mark Rustad
2006-02-24 11:09   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22  2:39 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions Yu, Luming
2006-02-22  3:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  6:55 Yu, Luming
2006-02-22 12:23 ` Adrian Bunk

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