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From: Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>
To: Frank Davis <fdavis@si.rr.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel support for non-english user messages
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:08:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030409080803.GC29167@mea-ext.zmailer.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E93A958.80107@si.rr.com>

On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:02:16AM -0400, Frank Davis wrote:
> All,
> 
> I wish to suggest a possible 2.6 or 2.7 feature (too late for 2.4.x and 
> 2.5.x, I believe) that I believe would be helpful. Currently, printk 
> messages are all in english, and I was wondering if printk could be 
> modified to print out user messages that are in the default language of 
> the machine. For example,

To propagate the idea further, why not have proper message catalogs,
and that way translations.  Instead of:

> printk(KERN_WARN "This driver is messed up!\n");

There would be:
  printk(KERN_WARN "1234-6789 this driver is messed up!\n")

In the old days of big iron beasts, there used to be multivolume
binders full of system messages, and their explanations.
Searching went thru those "1234-5678" strings.

There were sets of those manuals in a number of customer languages.

...
> I'm looking for a possible uniform design to make this happen, short of 
> adding a complete machine translation module to the kernel. :) Userland 
> internationalization support is already provided(I haven't personally 
> used other languages besides English, but I've seen the options), but a 
> kernel module or printk addition that handles localized kernel messages 
> seems reasonable.

Compiled in strings take up kernel space, which has better uses.
Even those code-labels take up space. If not much in kernel (in
form of e.g. 32 bit integers ?) then at least in the  dmesg  buffer.

> Thoughts, comments?
> 
> Regards,
> Frank

/Matti Aarnio

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-04-09  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-09  5:02 kernel support for non-english user messages Frank Davis
2003-04-09  5:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09  5:50   ` Frank Davis
2003-04-09  9:37     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-04-09 11:04   ` Alan Cox
2003-04-09  5:53 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-04-09  8:08 ` Matti Aarnio [this message]
2003-04-09  9:33   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 10:24     ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-09 22:07   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-09 22:41     ` Frank Davis
2003-04-09 22:55       ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-04-09 23:53         ` Johannes Ruscheinski
2003-04-10  1:43       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10 18:57         ` Alan Cox
2003-04-10 20:13           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-04-10 19:42             ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11  0:48               ` Christer Weinigel
2003-04-11 15:56                 ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-10 20:53             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10 23:05               ` Jon Portnoy
2003-04-11  5:39                 ` DevilKin
2003-04-11  5:49                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2003-04-11  6:17                     ` DevilKin
2003-04-11 17:51                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-04-11 11:57               ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-11 17:55                 ` David Lang
2003-04-10 20:36           ` John Bradford
2003-04-10 22:20             ` Shaya Potter
2003-04-11  4:19               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-11  4:23                 ` Shaya Potter
2003-04-11  8:40                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-04-11  9:09                 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 10:59                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-11 11:11                     ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 11:40                 ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-24 23:25             ` versioned filesystems in linux (was Re: kernel support for non-english user messages) Stewart Smith
2003-04-25  7:14               ` John Bradford
2003-04-25 15:20               ` Matthew Sell
2003-04-25 15:45                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-25 16:18                   ` versioned filesystems in linux (was Re: kernel support for John Bradford
2003-04-25 17:06                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-25 17:48                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-25 19:38                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-25 21:21                           ` 9-track tape drive (Was: Re: versioned filesystems in linux) John Bradford
2003-04-25 21:22                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-25 21:31                               ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-26  6:32                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-26  6:57                                   ` John Bradford
2003-04-25 18:13                       ` versioned filesystems in linux (was Re: kernel support for John Bradford
2003-04-25 18:34                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10  8:19       ` kernel support for non-english user messages Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 13:11 ` Giuliano Pochini
2003-04-10  3:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-10  9:05   ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-10 17:35     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-10 18:32       ` John Bradford
2003-04-12  2:55       ` Chris Wedgwood
2003-04-09 19:01 kernel support for non-english " Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-09 19:25 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-09 23:31 Jim Keniston[UNIX]
2003-04-10 19:01 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11  9:21   ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-11 12:16     ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 13:39       ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 13:11         ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 14:48           ` John Bradford
2003-04-10 10:47 kernel support for non-english " Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-10 19:21 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-10 20:41 ` Robert White
2003-04-11  9:21   ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-11 20:49     ` Robert White
2003-04-11 22:53       ` Riley Williams
2003-04-15  3:44         ` Robert White
2003-04-15 11:08           ` Alan Cox
2003-04-15 11:08           ` Alan Cox
2003-04-15 14:07           ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-11 21:04     ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-11 21:31       ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-10 20:54 kernel support for non-english " Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 21:08 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-04-10 21:20 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-10 22:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-04-11  7:38   ` Ville Herva
2003-04-10 22:13 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 22:33 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-04-10 23:23 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 10:10 Chuck Ebbert
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2003-04-11 11:29             ` Tim Connors
2003-04-11 13:17 kernel support for non-English " Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 13:40 ` John Bradford
2003-04-16  1:59   ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-04-16 14:28     ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 14:37       ` Alan Cox
2003-04-16 16:20         ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 17:04       ` Bruce Harada
2003-04-16 18:34         ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 18:37           ` Bruce Harada
2003-04-11 14:37 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-12  8:22 ` Kai Henningsen
2003-04-12 11:08   ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 14:52 Paolo Ciarrocchi
2003-04-11 16:57 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 17:38 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 18:10 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-11 20:02 kernel support for non-english " Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
     [not found] <A46BBDB345A7D5118EC90002A5072C780BEBA7DD@orsmsx116.jf.inte l.com>
2003-04-11 20:55 ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-11 22:21 kernel support for non-English " Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-12  7:55   ` John Bradford
2003-04-12  7:48 ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 11:40 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-14 12:55   ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 17:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-14 18:15       ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 23:04       ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-04-15 13:21       ` Alex Combas
2003-04-15 18:02       ` Eric Altendorf
2003-04-17 13:46         ` Alan Cox
2003-04-17 15:07         ` Randolph Bentson
2003-04-17 18:49           ` Eric Altendorf
2003-04-14 13:18   ` Sean Neakums
2003-04-14 14:23   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-16  5:03     ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-11 23:36 Jim Keniston[UNIX]
2003-04-11 23:38 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12  9:52 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 15:20 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 15:34 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-12 17:22   ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-04-13  3:59     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-13  6:21   ` John Bradford
2003-04-12 16:47 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 20:31 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-14  9:07 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-14 21:27 Chuck Ebbert

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