From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: Robert White <rwhite@casabyte.com>
Cc: Riley Williams <Riley@williams.name>,
Linux Kernel List <Linux-Kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kernel support for non-English user messages
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:07:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E9C1208.7070801@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: PEEPIDHAKMCGHDBJLHKGKEIFCHAA.rwhite@casabyte.com
Robert White wrote:
>Message codes would be *VERY BAD* anyway. As soon as you start that, then
>you need a numbering authority and all that nonsense.
>
>However, it should be "reasonably easy" to preprocess (in the gcc -E sense)
>all the files in a kernel directory and the gather up nearly all the
>prototype strings. (you would still have the occasional person who wrote
>"char Message[] = "INode: %d invalid"; printk(Message,number);" instead of
>having the string in place as just "printk("INode: %d invalid",number);" and
>the later is easier to collect up 8-)
>
>The thing is "INode: %d invalid", as a string is easy to decompose into a
>regular expression because it is mostly-constant and the non-constant parts
>are represented with constant markers. There are a small number of
>degenerate cases [e.g. printk("Filename %s invalid: %s","Filename","invalid:
>whitespace character")] that might need to be tweaked but nothing is
>perfect.
>
>So "the magic tool" collects these imprint strings and builds a list of all
>the strings (for the translator), a recognizer-table (perhaps hashes against
>the constant leader word of each message and a regex for the message) that
>points to the also-built hash/key into the table of all of the known
>strings.
>
>
I'm working on this right now. My plan is as follows:
- Use a C parser which takes .c or .i files and searches for the format
parameter to every printk call.
- Provide that information to both a preprocessor and the printk function.
- Pipe every .c or .i file through an intermediate preprocessor before
or after going to cpp but before the compiler.
- Do automatic string replacement.
Right now, I'm hovering somewhere around 40% compression on the text.
When I have better results, I will write up a full report and post it
on lkml.
And, BTW, I will ONLY be supporting English. As far as I am concerned,
the internationalization is an concluded issue. There's no benefit to
it, and Linus won't accept it into mainline anyhow.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-04-15 13:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-10 19:21 kernel support for non-english user messages Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-10 20:41 ` Robert White
2003-04-11 9:21 ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-11 20:49 ` Robert White
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Riley Williams
2003-04-15 3:44 ` Robert White
2003-04-15 11:08 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-15 11:08 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-15 14:07 ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2003-04-11 21:04 ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-11 21:31 ` Daniel Stekloff
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-14 21:27 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 20:31 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-14 9:07 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-12 16:47 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 15:20 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-12 15:34 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-12 17:22 ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-04-13 3:59 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-13 6:21 ` John Bradford
2003-04-12 9:52 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 23:38 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 23:36 Jim Keniston[UNIX]
2003-04-11 22:21 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-12 7:55 ` John Bradford
2003-04-12 7:48 ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 11:40 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-14 12:55 ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-14 18:15 ` John Bradford
2003-04-14 23:04 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-04-15 13:21 ` Alex Combas
2003-04-15 18:02 ` Eric Altendorf
2003-04-17 13:46 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-17 15:07 ` Randolph Bentson
2003-04-17 18:49 ` Eric Altendorf
2003-04-14 13:18 ` Sean Neakums
2003-04-14 14:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-16 5:03 ` Denis Vlasenko
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2003-04-11 20:55 ` kernel support for non-english " Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-11 20:02 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 16:57 kernel support for non-English " Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 17:38 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 18:10 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-11 14:52 Paolo Ciarrocchi
2003-04-11 13:17 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-11 13:40 ` John Bradford
2003-04-16 1:59 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-04-16 14:28 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 14:37 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-16 16:20 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 17:04 ` Bruce Harada
2003-04-16 18:34 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-16 18:37 ` Bruce Harada
2003-04-11 14:37 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-12 8:22 ` Kai Henningsen
2003-04-12 11:08 ` John Bradford
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2003-04-11 11:29 ` kernel support for non-english " Tim Connors
2003-04-11 10:10 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 23:23 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 22:13 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 22:33 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-04-10 21:20 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-10 22:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-04-11 7:38 ` Ville Herva
2003-04-10 20:54 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-10 21:08 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-04-10 10:47 Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-09 23:31 Jim Keniston[UNIX]
2003-04-10 19:01 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 9:21 ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-11 12:16 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 13:39 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 13:11 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 14:48 ` John Bradford
2003-04-09 19:25 kernel support for non-english " Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-09 19:01 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-09 5:02 Frank Davis
2003-04-09 5:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 5:50 ` Frank Davis
2003-04-09 9:37 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-04-09 11:04 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-09 5:53 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-04-09 8:08 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-09 9:33 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 10:24 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-04-09 22:07 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-09 22:41 ` Frank Davis
2003-04-09 22:55 ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-04-09 23:53 ` Johannes Ruscheinski
2003-04-10 1:43 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10 18:57 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-10 20:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-04-10 19:42 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 0:48 ` Christer Weinigel
2003-04-11 15:56 ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-04-10 20:53 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-10 23:05 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-04-11 5:39 ` DevilKin
2003-04-11 5:49 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2003-04-11 6:17 ` DevilKin
2003-04-11 17:51 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-04-11 11:57 ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-11 17:55 ` David Lang
2003-04-10 20:36 ` John Bradford
2003-04-10 22:20 ` Shaya Potter
2003-04-11 4:19 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-11 4:23 ` Shaya Potter
2003-04-11 8:40 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-04-11 9:09 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 10:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-11 11:11 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 11:40 ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-10 8:19 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-09 13:11 ` Giuliano Pochini
2003-04-10 3:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-10 9:05 ` kernel support for non-English " Riley Williams
2003-04-10 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-10 18:32 ` John Bradford
2003-04-12 2:55 ` Chris Wedgwood
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