Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel

From: Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>
To: Christian Iversen <chrivers@iversen-net.dk>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	chriswhite@gentoo.org, Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:32:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509181532.57908.vda@ilport.com.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200509181406.25922.chrivers@iversen-net.dk>

On Sunday 18 September 2005 15:06, Christian Iversen wrote:
> On Sunday 18 September 2005 12:26, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:21:23PM +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
> > > This is it. I do not say "accept reiser4 NOW", I am saying "give Hans
> > > good code review".
> >
> > After he did his basic homework.  Note that reviewing hans code is probably
> > at the very end of everyones todo list because every critizm of his code
> > starts a huge flamewar where hans tries to attack everyone not on his
> > party line personally.
> >
> > I've said I'm gonna do a proper review after he has done the basic
> > homework, which he seems to have half-done now at least.  Right now he
> > hasn't finished that and there's much more exciting filesystems like ocfs2
> > around [...]
> 
> Now _what_ good does that sentence do us? I've been following this this since 
> the primary reiser filesystem was number 3, and the kernel everybody was 
> using was 2.4.10. You've probably been following this list for far longer, 
> but is that really an excuse for rudeness?
> 
> reiser4 has many, many extremely interesting features. I'm sure anybody is 
> more than willing to go into detail with them, but saying that "ocfs2 is much 
> more exiting" is just plain bashing, and it's not fair to Hans, to Namesys, 
> or to every one of us who can't wait for reiser4 in mainline. 

"every one of us who can't wait" do not count, because they do nothing.

If you want reiser4 included into mainline, do something. Like download
a patch and try to use it.

Last time I tried, it didn't work. Kernel locked up. Namesys was quick
with fix for the lockup, but then "ls ." failed to work. I sent all
the data (kernel version, fs image, etc) to Namesys but after several
email iterations it died out with no resolution.

I will try again sometime. Maybe it got better.

> Could you please keep your personal idea of which filesystem is more 
> interesting to yourself? It doesn't help anybody accomplish anything. 

Your reply wasn't polite/useful either.
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vda