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From: David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>,
	Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 13:10:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <432DAD87.2090500@slaphack.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050918102357.GA22210@infradead.org>

Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 01:56:14PM +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
> 
>>At least reiser4 is smaller. IIRC xfs is older than reiser4 and had more time
>>to optimize code size, but:
>>
>>reiser4        2557872 bytes
>>xfs            3306782 bytes
> 
> 
> and romfs is smaller than ext2, damn.  Should we remove all filesystems but
> romfs now?
> 
> 
> and yeah, if you didn't get the hint compare the feature sets.

XFS does have a nice feature set, sure.  So does Reiser4.

XFS can "freeze" the filesystem, take a live snapshot, and do some 
other, similar tricks.  Reiser4 can show file metadata as files 
themselves, compress on-the-fly (last I checked, the compression code is 
in there, just not being used), and pack small files incredibly well.

XFS has xattrs.  Reiser has metas, and will eventually provide an xattr 
interface to them.

You may not value Reiser's feature set, but that doesn't make it less 
complex.  Romfs is actually simpler than ext2, and its whole "feature" 
seems to be having a tiny implementation.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-18 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-16 17:05 I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 17:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-16 17:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-16 19:39   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 19:52     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-17 10:51       ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-19  5:01         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 20:50     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-09-16 20:53       ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-09-19  5:09         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-17  9:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-17 10:56       ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-17 11:15         ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18  0:34           ` Chris White
2005-09-18 10:21             ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 10:26               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                 ` <200509181406.25922.chrivers@iversen-net.dk>
2005-09-18 12:32                   ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 18:25                     ` David Masover
2005-09-19  5:16                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19  5:56                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-19  6:53                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 17:22                 ` michael chang
2005-09-18 19:16                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-18 20:04                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-18 20:29                     ` David Masover
2005-09-18 21:43                       ` Dan Oglesby
2005-09-19  1:37                         ` PFC
2005-09-19  1:53                           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19  2:48                             ` Dr.Dre
2005-09-19  4:37                           ` Marc Perkel
2005-09-18 20:33                     ` Marc Perkel
2005-09-19  5:44                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 10:39                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 18:51                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 10:51                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 23:03                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20  8:00                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20  7:51                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-20 14:41                         ` David Masover
2005-09-20 17:25                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:17                           ` Horst von Brand
     [not found]                           ` <20050920175727.GA17820@thunk.org>
     [not found]                             ` <1127240326.10407.22.camel@localhost>
2005-09-20 21:11                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-21  0:08                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  9:05                                 ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-09-20 17:46                         ` Hans Reiser
     [not found]                         ` <200509202328.28501.rik@osrc.info>
2005-09-20 20:15                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-20 21:17                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-20 21:33                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-20 21:37                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                             ` <200509210133.41710.rik@osrc.info>
2005-09-20 22:10                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-21  0:22                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  0:04                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-21  0:13                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  0:27                           ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21  0:44                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  1:12                               ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21  3:05                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  4:55                                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-21 11:21                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 17:36                                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 18:12                                         ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 10:16                                   ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-09-21  1:01                           ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-21  1:15                             ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-23  6:21                             ` David Greaves
2005-09-23 11:37                               ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-18 20:52                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19  0:56                     ` michael chang
2005-09-18 21:38                   ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19  5:07                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19  9:01                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:16                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:21                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-19 10:43                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 18:50                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 18:51                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 12:45                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20  4:16                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-20  6:28                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20  7:16                           ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-20  7:59                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20  8:31                               ` elevators (was Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel) Nick Piggin
2005-09-20 17:18                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 11:42                               ` I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 13:30                                 ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2005-09-20 13:41                                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 13:55                                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-20 17:46                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 15:25                                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-20 17:21                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:18                                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 15:42                           ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 17:46                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:25                               ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 18:27                               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 21:16                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 21:37                                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 22:07                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 17:55                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 20:00               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-19 21:55                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 10:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-18 18:10           ` David Masover [this message]
2005-09-19 20:41   ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2005-09-26 15:03   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-10-04 19:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-04 21:10       ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-11 16:15   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2006-01-09  9:54   ` What's the state of Reiser4 inclusion " Giovanni A. Orlando
2006-01-09  9:15     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-17 11:16 ` I request inclusion of reiser4 " Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18  3:06   ` George Garvey
2005-09-18 10:02   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 19:36     ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-19 21:10       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 21:47         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-09-19 22:01         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 23:15     ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20  3:57       ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-20  9:30         ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-20 15:36           ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 17:43             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:36               ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 22:08               ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-21  0:21                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 10:47                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 17:34                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 18:31                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 18:39                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 17:53         ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-09-20 22:57           ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-21  8:15             ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-09-18 22:12   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 11:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:18   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-19  9:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <43302CF7.2010901@namesys.com>
     [not found]         ` <20050920154711.GA6698@infradead.org>
2005-09-30 12:10           ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-30 17:27             ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-04 18:12             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:40     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2005-09-20 22:40 James Lamanna
2005-09-20 23:46 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-09-20 23:51   ` James Lamanna

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