From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:39:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <432B1F84.3000902@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050916174028.GA32745@infradead.org>
Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>additinoal comment is that the code is very messy, very different
>from normal kernel style, full of indirections and thus hard to read.
>
Most of my customers remark that Namesys code is head and shoulders
above the rest of the kernel code. So yes, it is different. In
particular, they cite the XFS code as being so incredibly hard to read
that its unreadability is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in
license fees for me. That's cash received, from persons who read it
all, not commentary made idly.
May I suggest that you work on the XFS code instead? Surely with all of
this energy you have, you could improve XFS a lot before it gets
accepted into the kernel.
As for the indirections, if you figure out how to make VFS indirections
easy to follow, the same technique should be applicable to Reiser4, and
I will be happy to fix it.
Hans
(Note for the record: I actually think XFS acceptance was delayed too
long, and I think that XFS is a great filesystem, but a rhetorical point
needed to be made......)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-16 19:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-16 17:05 I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 17:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-16 17:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-16 19:39 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-09-16 19:52 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-17 10:51 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-19 5:01 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 20:50 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-09-16 20:53 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-09-19 5:09 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-17 9:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-17 10:56 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-17 11:15 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 0:34 ` Chris White
2005-09-18 10:21 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 10:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <200509181406.25922.chrivers@iversen-net.dk>
2005-09-18 12:32 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 18:25 ` David Masover
2005-09-19 5:16 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 5:56 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-19 6:53 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 17:22 ` michael chang
2005-09-18 19:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-18 20:04 ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-18 20:29 ` David Masover
2005-09-18 21:43 ` Dan Oglesby
2005-09-19 1:37 ` PFC
2005-09-19 1:53 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19 2:48 ` Dr.Dre
2005-09-19 4:37 ` Marc Perkel
2005-09-18 20:33 ` Marc Perkel
2005-09-19 5:44 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 10:39 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 18:51 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 10:51 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 23:03 ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 8:00 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 7:51 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-20 14:41 ` David Masover
2005-09-20 17:25 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:17 ` Horst von Brand
[not found] ` <20050920175727.GA17820@thunk.org>
[not found] ` <1127240326.10407.22.camel@localhost>
2005-09-20 21:11 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-21 0:08 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 9:05 ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-09-20 17:46 ` Hans Reiser
[not found] ` <200509202328.28501.rik@osrc.info>
2005-09-20 20:15 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-20 21:17 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-20 21:33 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-20 21:37 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <200509210133.41710.rik@osrc.info>
2005-09-20 22:10 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-21 0:22 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 0:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-21 0:13 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 0:27 ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 0:44 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 1:12 ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 3:05 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 4:55 ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-21 11:21 ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 17:36 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 18:12 ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 10:16 ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-09-21 1:01 ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-21 1:15 ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-23 6:21 ` David Greaves
2005-09-23 11:37 ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-18 20:52 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19 0:56 ` michael chang
2005-09-18 21:38 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 5:07 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 9:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 9:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 9:21 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-19 10:43 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 18:50 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 18:51 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 12:45 ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 4:16 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-20 6:28 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 7:16 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-20 7:59 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 8:31 ` elevators (was Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel) Nick Piggin
2005-09-20 17:18 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 11:42 ` I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 13:30 ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2005-09-20 13:41 ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 13:55 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-20 17:46 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 15:25 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-20 17:21 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:18 ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 15:42 ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 17:46 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:25 ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 18:27 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 21:16 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 21:37 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 22:07 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 17:55 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 20:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-19 21:55 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 10:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-18 18:10 ` David Masover
2005-09-19 20:41 ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2005-09-26 15:03 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-10-04 19:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-04 21:10 ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-11 16:15 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2006-01-09 9:54 ` What's the state of Reiser4 inclusion " Giovanni A. Orlando
2006-01-09 9:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-17 11:16 ` I request inclusion of reiser4 " Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 3:06 ` George Garvey
2005-09-18 10:02 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 19:36 ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-19 21:10 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 21:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-09-19 22:01 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 23:15 ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 3:57 ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-20 9:30 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-20 15:36 ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 17:43 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:36 ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 22:08 ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-21 0:21 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 10:47 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 17:34 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 18:31 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 18:39 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 17:53 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-09-20 22:57 ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-21 8:15 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-09-18 22:12 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 11:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 9:18 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-19 9:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <43302CF7.2010901@namesys.com>
[not found] ` <20050920154711.GA6698@infradead.org>
2005-09-30 12:10 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-30 17:27 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-04 18:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 9:40 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2005-09-20 22:40 James Lamanna
2005-09-20 23:46 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-09-20 23:51 ` James Lamanna
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