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From: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	thenewme91@gmail.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>,
	chriswhite@gentoo.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>,
	Nate Diller <ndiller@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:42:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509201542.j8KFgh2q011730@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>  of "Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:28:10 MST." <432FABFA.9010406@namesys.com>

Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> > Hans Reiser wrote:
> >> So why is the code in the kernel so hard to read then?
> >>
> >> Linux kernel code is getting better, and Andrew Morton's code is
> >> especially good, but for the most part it's unnecessarily hard to
> >> read. Look at the elevator code for instance.  Ugh.

> > What's wrong with the elevator code?

> The name for one.  There is no elevator algorithm anywhere in it.

IO schedulers are commonly called "elevators", even though most of them
aren't. Standard operating system terminology.

>                                                                    There
> is a least block number first algorithm that was called an elevator, but
> it does not have the properties described by Ousterhout and sundry CS
> textbooks describing elevator algorithms.  The textbook algorithms are
> better than least block number first,

Funny that the "texbook algorithms" aren't used in real life. Wonder why...

>                                       and it is interesting how nobody
> fixed the mislabeling of the algorithm once Linux had gotten to the
> point that it was striving for more than making gcc be able to run on it. 

Could you /please/ stop your snide remarks on the code and its authors? If
for nothing else, the very people you are insulting in public are the exact
ones that will decide if they take on the work of auditing and integrating
your code.
-- 
Dr. Horst H. von Brand                   User #22616 counter.li.org
Departamento de Informatica                     Fono: +56 32 654431
Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria              +56 32 654239
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-20 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-16 17:05 I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 17:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-16 17:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-16 19:39   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 19:52     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-17 10:51       ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-19  5:01         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 20:50     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-09-16 20:53       ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-09-19  5:09         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-17  9:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-17 10:56       ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-17 11:15         ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18  0:34           ` Chris White
2005-09-18 10:21             ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 10:26               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                 ` <200509181406.25922.chrivers@iversen-net.dk>
2005-09-18 12:32                   ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 18:25                     ` David Masover
2005-09-19  5:16                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19  5:56                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-19  6:53                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 17:22                 ` michael chang
2005-09-18 19:16                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-18 20:04                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-18 20:29                     ` David Masover
2005-09-18 21:43                       ` Dan Oglesby
2005-09-19  1:37                         ` PFC
2005-09-19  1:53                           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19  2:48                             ` Dr.Dre
2005-09-19  4:37                           ` Marc Perkel
2005-09-18 20:33                     ` Marc Perkel
2005-09-19  5:44                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 10:39                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 18:51                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 10:51                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 23:03                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20  8:00                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20  7:51                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-20 14:41                         ` David Masover
2005-09-20 17:25                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:17                           ` Horst von Brand
     [not found]                           ` <20050920175727.GA17820@thunk.org>
     [not found]                             ` <1127240326.10407.22.camel@localhost>
2005-09-20 21:11                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-21  0:08                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  9:05                                 ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-09-20 17:46                         ` Hans Reiser
     [not found]                         ` <200509202328.28501.rik@osrc.info>
2005-09-20 20:15                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-20 21:17                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-20 21:33                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-20 21:37                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                             ` <200509210133.41710.rik@osrc.info>
2005-09-20 22:10                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-21  0:22                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  0:04                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-21  0:13                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  0:27                           ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21  0:44                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  1:12                               ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21  3:05                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  4:55                                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-21 11:21                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 17:36                                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 18:12                                         ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 10:16                                   ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-09-21  1:01                           ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-21  1:15                             ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-23  6:21                             ` David Greaves
2005-09-23 11:37                               ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-18 20:52                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19  0:56                     ` michael chang
2005-09-18 21:38                   ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19  5:07                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19  9:01                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:16                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:21                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-19 10:43                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 18:50                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 18:51                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 12:45                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20  4:16                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-20  6:28                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20  7:16                           ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-20  7:59                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20  8:31                               ` elevators (was Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel) Nick Piggin
2005-09-20 17:18                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 11:42                               ` I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 13:30                                 ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2005-09-20 13:41                                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 13:55                                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-20 17:46                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 15:25                                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-20 17:21                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:18                                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 15:42                           ` Horst von Brand [this message]
2005-09-20 17:46                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:25                               ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 18:27                               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 21:16                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 21:37                                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 22:07                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 17:55                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 20:00               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-19 21:55                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 10:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-18 18:10           ` David Masover
2005-09-19 20:41   ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2005-09-26 15:03   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-10-04 19:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-04 21:10       ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-11 16:15   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2006-01-09  9:54   ` What's the state of Reiser4 inclusion " Giovanni A. Orlando
2006-01-09  9:15     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-17 11:16 ` I request inclusion of reiser4 " Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18  3:06   ` George Garvey
2005-09-18 10:02   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 19:36     ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-19 21:10       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 21:47         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-09-19 22:01         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 23:15     ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20  3:57       ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-20  9:30         ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-20 15:36           ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 17:43             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:36               ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 22:08               ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-21  0:21                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 10:47                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 17:34                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 18:31                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 18:39                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 17:53         ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-09-20 22:57           ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-21  8:15             ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-09-18 22:12   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 11:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:18   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-19  9:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <43302CF7.2010901@namesys.com>
     [not found]         ` <20050920154711.GA6698@infradead.org>
2005-09-30 12:10           ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-30 17:27             ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-04 18:12             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:40     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2005-09-20 22:40 James Lamanna
2005-09-20 23:46 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-09-20 23:51   ` James Lamanna

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