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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	thenewme91@gmail.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>,
	chriswhite@gentoo.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>,
	Nate Diller <ndiller@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:28:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <432FABFA.9010406@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <432F8D1E.7060300@yahoo.com.au>

Nick Piggin wrote:

> Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>> So why is the code in the kernel so hard to read then?
>>
>> Linux kernel code is getting better, and Andrew Morton's code is
>> especially good, but for the most part it's unnecessarily hard to
>> read. Look at the elevator code for instance.  Ugh.
>>
>>
>
> What's wrong with the elevator code?
>
The name for one.  There is no elevator algorithm anywhere in it.  There
is a least block number first algorithm that was called an elevator, but
it does not have the properties described by Ousterhout and sundry CS
textbooks describing elevator algorithms.  The textbook algorithms are
better than least block number first, and it is interesting how nobody
fixed the mislabeling of the algorithm once Linux had gotten to the
point that it was striving for more than making gcc be able to run on it. 

cfq is good code though for many usage patterns. 

I would say more, but I need to talk a customer into ok'ing releasing
some code first, so I can only say what I knew before doing the work for
that customer at this time.

If you would like many more details of coding/commenting inelegance, ask
Nate Diller after the customer oks his talking about it, which will
happen more easily if we say nothing that we did not know before the
work for them until we first get their ok.....

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-20  6:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-16 17:05 I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 17:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-16 17:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-16 19:39   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 19:52     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-17 10:51       ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-19  5:01         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-16 20:50     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-09-16 20:53       ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-09-19  5:09         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-17  9:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-17 10:56       ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-17 11:15         ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18  0:34           ` Chris White
2005-09-18 10:21             ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 10:26               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                 ` <200509181406.25922.chrivers@iversen-net.dk>
2005-09-18 12:32                   ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 18:25                     ` David Masover
2005-09-19  5:16                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19  5:56                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-19  6:53                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 17:22                 ` michael chang
2005-09-18 19:16                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-18 20:04                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-18 20:29                     ` David Masover
2005-09-18 21:43                       ` Dan Oglesby
2005-09-19  1:37                         ` PFC
2005-09-19  1:53                           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19  2:48                             ` Dr.Dre
2005-09-19  4:37                           ` Marc Perkel
2005-09-18 20:33                     ` Marc Perkel
2005-09-19  5:44                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 10:39                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 18:51                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 10:51                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 23:03                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20  8:00                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20  7:51                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-20 14:41                         ` David Masover
2005-09-20 17:25                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:17                           ` Horst von Brand
     [not found]                           ` <20050920175727.GA17820@thunk.org>
     [not found]                             ` <1127240326.10407.22.camel@localhost>
2005-09-20 21:11                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-21  0:08                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  9:05                                 ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-09-20 17:46                         ` Hans Reiser
     [not found]                         ` <200509202328.28501.rik@osrc.info>
2005-09-20 20:15                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-20 21:17                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-20 21:33                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-20 21:37                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                             ` <200509210133.41710.rik@osrc.info>
2005-09-20 22:10                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-21  0:22                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  0:04                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-21  0:13                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  0:27                           ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21  0:44                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  1:12                               ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21  3:05                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21  4:55                                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-21 11:21                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 17:36                                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 18:12                                         ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-21 10:16                                   ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-09-21  1:01                           ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-21  1:15                             ` Ric Wheeler
2005-09-23  6:21                             ` David Greaves
2005-09-23 11:37                               ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-18 20:52                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19  0:56                     ` michael chang
2005-09-18 21:38                   ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19  5:07                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19  9:01                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:16                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:21                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-19 10:43                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-19 18:50                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 18:51                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 12:45                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20  4:16                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-20  6:28                         ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-09-20  7:16                           ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-20  7:59                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20  8:31                               ` elevators (was Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel) Nick Piggin
2005-09-20 17:18                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 11:42                               ` I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 13:30                                 ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2005-09-20 13:41                                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 13:55                                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-20 17:46                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 15:25                                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-20 17:21                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:18                                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 15:42                           ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 17:46                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:25                               ` Jens Axboe
2005-09-20 18:27                               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 21:16                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 21:37                                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 22:07                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 17:55                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 20:00               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-19 21:55                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 10:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-18 18:10           ` David Masover
2005-09-19 20:41   ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2005-09-26 15:03   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-10-04 19:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-04 21:10       ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-11 16:15   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2006-01-09  9:54   ` What's the state of Reiser4 inclusion " Giovanni A. Orlando
2006-01-09  9:15     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-17 11:16 ` I request inclusion of reiser4 " Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18  3:06   ` George Garvey
2005-09-18 10:02   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 19:36     ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-19 21:10       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-19 21:47         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-09-19 22:01         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-19 23:15     ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20  3:57       ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-20  9:30         ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-20 15:36           ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 17:43             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 18:36               ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-20 22:08               ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-21  0:21                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 10:47                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 17:34                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-21 18:31                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-09-21 18:39                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-20 17:53         ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-09-20 22:57           ` Stephen Pollei
2005-09-21  8:15             ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-09-18 22:12   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-18 11:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:18   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-19  9:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <43302CF7.2010901@namesys.com>
     [not found]         ` <20050920154711.GA6698@infradead.org>
2005-09-30 12:10           ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-30 17:27             ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-04 18:12             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19  9:40     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2005-09-20 22:40 James Lamanna
2005-09-20 23:46 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-09-20 23:51   ` James Lamanna

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