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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:31:25 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100413142445.D0FE.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1271117878-19274-1-git-send-email-david@fromorbit.com>

Hi

> From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> 
> When we enter direct reclaim we may have used an arbitrary amount of stack
> space, and hence enterring the filesystem to do writeback can then lead to
> stack overruns. This problem was recently encountered x86_64 systems with
> 8k stacks running XFS with simple storage configurations.
> 
> Writeback from direct reclaim also adversely affects background writeback. The
> background flusher threads should already be taking care of cleaning dirty
> pages, and direct reclaim will kick them if they aren't already doing work. If
> direct reclaim is also calling ->writepage, it will cause the IO patterns from
> the background flusher threads to be upset by LRU-order writeback from
> pageout() which can be effectively random IO. Having competing sources of IO
> trying to clean pages on the same backing device reduces throughput by
> increasing the amount of seeks that the backing device has to do to write back
> the pages.
> 
> Hence for direct reclaim we should not allow ->writepages to be entered at all.
> Set up the relevant scan_control structures to enforce this, and prevent
> sc->may_writepage from being set in other places in the direct reclaim path in
> response to other events.

Ummm..
This patch is harder to ack. This patch's pros/cons seems

Pros:
	1) prevent XFS stack overflow
	2) improve io workload performance

Cons:
	3) TOTALLY kill lumpy reclaim (i.e. high order allocation)

So, If we only need to consider io workload this is no downside. but
it can't.

I think (1) is XFS issue. XFS should care it itself. but (2) is really
VM issue. Now our VM makes too agressive pageout() and decrease io 
throughput. I've heard this issue from Chris (cc to him). I'd like to 
fix this. but we never kill pageout() completely because we can't
assume users don't run high order allocation workload.
(perhaps Mel's memory compaction code is going to improve much and
 we can kill lumpy reclaim in future. but it's another story)

Thanks.


> 
> Reported-by: John Berthels <john@humyo.com>
> Signed-off-by: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> ---
>  mm/vmscan.c |   13 ++++++-------
>  1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index e0e5f15..5321ac4 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1826,10 +1826,8 @@ static unsigned long do_try_to_free_pages(struct zonelist *zonelist,
>  		 * writeout.  So in laptop mode, write out the whole world.
>  		 */
>  		writeback_threshold = sc->nr_to_reclaim + sc->nr_to_reclaim / 2;
> -		if (total_scanned > writeback_threshold) {
> +		if (total_scanned > writeback_threshold)
>  			wakeup_flusher_threads(laptop_mode ? 0 : total_scanned);
> -			sc->may_writepage = 1;
> -		}
>  
>  		/* Take a nap, wait for some writeback to complete */
>  		if (!sc->hibernation_mode && sc->nr_scanned &&
> @@ -1871,7 +1869,7 @@ unsigned long try_to_free_pages(struct zonelist *zonelist, int order,
>  {
>  	struct scan_control sc = {
>  		.gfp_mask = gfp_mask,
> -		.may_writepage = !laptop_mode,
> +		.may_writepage = 0,
>  		.nr_to_reclaim = SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX,
>  		.may_unmap = 1,
>  		.may_swap = 1,
> @@ -1893,7 +1891,7 @@ unsigned long mem_cgroup_shrink_node_zone(struct mem_cgroup *mem,
>  						struct zone *zone, int nid)
>  {
>  	struct scan_control sc = {
> -		.may_writepage = !laptop_mode,
> +		.may_writepage = 0,
>  		.may_unmap = 1,
>  		.may_swap = !noswap,
>  		.swappiness = swappiness,
> @@ -1926,7 +1924,7 @@ unsigned long try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(struct mem_cgroup *mem_cont,
>  {
>  	struct zonelist *zonelist;
>  	struct scan_control sc = {
> -		.may_writepage = !laptop_mode,
> +		.may_writepage = 0,
>  		.may_unmap = 1,
>  		.may_swap = !noswap,
>  		.nr_to_reclaim = SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX,
> @@ -2567,7 +2565,8 @@ static int __zone_reclaim(struct zone *zone, gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order)
>  	struct reclaim_state reclaim_state;
>  	int priority;
>  	struct scan_control sc = {
> -		.may_writepage = !!(zone_reclaim_mode & RECLAIM_WRITE),
> +		.may_writepage = (current_is_kswapd() &&
> +					(zone_reclaim_mode & RECLAIM_WRITE)),
>  		.may_unmap = !!(zone_reclaim_mode & RECLAIM_SWAP),
>  		.may_swap = 1,
>  		.nr_to_reclaim = max_t(unsigned long, nr_pages,
> -- 
> 1.6.5
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-13  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13  0:17 [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  8:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-04-13 10:29   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 11:39     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 14:36       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  3:12         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  1:56             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:36           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 11:19   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 19:34     ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 20:20       ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  1:40         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  4:59           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14  5:41             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  5:54               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  6:13                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:19                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  9:42                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 10:01                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14 10:07                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 10:16                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:06                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:28             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  8:51               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15  1:34                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  4:09                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:11                     ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: delegate pageout io to flusher thread if current is kswapd KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:05                       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15  8:17                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:26                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:30                             ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15 17:24                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-20  2:56                               ` Ying Han
2010-04-15  9:32                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  9:41                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 17:27                           ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15 23:33                             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 23:41                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-16  9:50                               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-17  3:06                                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  8:18                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:31                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 11:26                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:13                     ` [PATCH 2/4] vmscan: kill prev_priority completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:14                     ` [PATCH 3/4] vmscan: move priority variable into scan_control KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:15                     ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: delegate page cleaning io to flusher thread if VM pressure is low KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:35                     ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:32                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:44                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:58                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:20                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:35                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:54                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 10:21                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:23                             ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: simplify shrink_inactive_list() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:15                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 15:01                                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 15:44                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 16:54                                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 23:40                                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16  7:13                                         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 14:57                                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-17  2:37                                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 14:55                                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 18:22                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-04-16  9:39                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 2/4] [cleanup] mm: introduce free_pages_prepare KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:33                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: introduce free_pages_bulk KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:46                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:26                             ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: replace the pagevec in shrink_inactive_list() with list KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:28                   ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 13:42                     ` Chris Mason
2010-04-15 17:50                       ` tytso
2010-04-16 15:05                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 15:15                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-16  4:14                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 15:14                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-18  0:32                         ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:05                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 16:31                             ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:35                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 19:11                             ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 19:10                           ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 21:30                             ` James Bottomley
2010-04-18 23:34                               ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-19  3:08                               ` tytso
2010-04-19  0:35                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  0:49                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19  1:08                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  4:32                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19 15:20                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-23  1:06                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-23 10:50                             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 14:57                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15  2:37                 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15  2:43                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-16 23:56                     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14 10:06         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 11:20           ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14 12:15             ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 12:32               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-14 12:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 13:23             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 14:07               ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  0:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  4:44   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  7:54     ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-16  1:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-16  4:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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