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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:01:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <q2m28c262361004140301jba94a025nda755c1df2e04155@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100414184213.f6bf11a7.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:42 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
<kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:19:02 +0900
> Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:54 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
>> > <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 01:59:45PM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>> >>> > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:40:41 +1000
>> >>> > Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > >  50)     3168      64   xfs_vm_writepage+0xab/0x160 [xfs]
>> >>> > >  51)     3104     384   shrink_page_list+0x65e/0x840
>> >>> > >  52)     2720     528   shrink_zone+0x63f/0xe10
>> >>> >
>> >>> > A bit OFF TOPIC.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Could you share disassemble of shrink_zone() ?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > In my environ.
>> >>> > 00000000000115a0 <shrink_zone>:
>> >>> >    115a0:       55                      push   %rbp
>> >>> >    115a1:       48 89 e5                mov    %rsp,%rbp
>> >>> >    115a4:       41 57                   push   %r15
>> >>> >    115a6:       41 56                   push   %r14
>> >>> >    115a8:       41 55                   push   %r13
>> >>> >    115aa:       41 54                   push   %r12
>> >>> >    115ac:       53                      push   %rbx
>> >>> >    115ad:       48 83 ec 78             sub    $0x78,%rsp
>> >>> >    115b1:       e8 00 00 00 00          callq  115b6 <shrink_zone+0x16>
>> >>> >    115b6:       48 89 75 80             mov    %rsi,-0x80(%rbp)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > disassemble seems to show 0x78 bytes for stack. And no changes to %rsp
>> >>> > until retrun.
>> >>>
>> >>> I see the same. I didn't compile those kernels, though. IIUC,
>> >>> they were built through the Ubuntu build infrastructure, so there is
>> >>> something different in terms of compiler, compiler options or config
>> >>> to what we are both using. Most likely it is the compiler inlining,
>> >>> though Chris's patches to prevent that didn't seem to change the
>> >>> stack usage.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm trying to get a stack trace from the kernel that has shrink_zone
>> >>> in it, but I haven't succeeded yet....
>> >>
>> >> I also got 0x78 byte stack usage. Umm.. Do we discussed real issue now?
>> >>
>> >
>> > In my case, 0x110 byte in 32 bit machine.
>> > I think it's possible in 64 bit machine.
>> >
>> > 00001830 <shrink_zone>:
>> >    1830:       55                      push   %ebp
>> >    1831:       89 e5                   mov    %esp,%ebp
>> >    1833:       57                      push   %edi
>> >    1834:       56                      push   %esi
>> >    1835:       53                      push   %ebx
>> >    1836:       81 ec 10 01 00 00       sub    $0x110,%esp
>> >    183c:       89 85 24 ff ff ff       mov    %eax,-0xdc(%ebp)
>> >    1842:       89 95 20 ff ff ff       mov    %edx,-0xe0(%ebp)
>> >    1848:       89 8d 1c ff ff ff       mov    %ecx,-0xe4(%ebp)
>> >    184e:       8b 41 04                mov    0x4(%ecx)
>> >
>> > my gcc is following as.
>> >
>> > barrios@barriostarget:~/mmotm$ gcc -v
>> > Using built-in specs.
>> > Target: i486-linux-gnu
>> > Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu
>> > 4.3.3-5ubuntu4'
>> > --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.3/README.Bugs
>> > --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr
>> > --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib
>> > --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls
>> > --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.3 --program-suffix=-4.3
>> > --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-objc-gc
>> > --enable-mpfr --enable-targets=all --with-tune=generic
>> > --enable-checking=release --build=i486-linux-gnu --host=i486-linux-gnu
>> > --target=i486-linux-gnu
>> > Thread model: posix
>> > gcc version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4)
>> >
>> >
>> > Is it depends on config?
>> > I attach my config.
>>
>> I changed shrink list by noinline_for_stack.
>> The result is following as.
>>
>>
>> 00001fe0 <shrink_zone>:
>>     1fe0:       55                      push   %ebp
>>     1fe1:       89 e5                   mov    %esp,%ebp
>>     1fe3:       57                      push   %edi
>>     1fe4:       56                      push   %esi
>>     1fe5:       53                      push   %ebx
>>     1fe6:       83 ec 4c                sub    $0x4c,%esp
>>     1fe9:       89 45 c0                mov    %eax,-0x40(%ebp)
>>     1fec:       89 55 bc                mov    %edx,-0x44(%ebp)
>>     1fef:       89 4d b8                mov    %ecx,-0x48(%ebp)
>>
>> 0x110 -> 0x4c.
>>
>> Should we have to add noinline_for_stack for shrink_list?
>>
>
> Hmm. about shirnk_zone(), I don't think uninlining functions directly called
> by shrink_zone() can be a help.
> Total stack size of call-chain will be still big.

Absolutely.
But above 500 byte usage is one of hogger and uninlining is not
critical about reclaim performance. So I think we don't get any lost
than gain.

But I don't get in a hurry. adhoc approach is not good.
I hope when Mel tackles down consumption of stack in reclaim path, he
modifies this part, too.

Thanks.

> Thanks,
> -Kame
>
>
>



-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-14 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13  0:17 [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  8:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 10:29   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 11:39     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 14:36       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  3:12         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  1:56             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:36           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 11:19   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 19:34     ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 20:20       ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  1:40         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  4:59           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14  5:41             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  5:54               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  6:13                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:19                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  9:42                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 10:01                       ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-04-14 10:07                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 10:16                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:06                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:28             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  8:51               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15  1:34                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  4:09                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:11                     ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: delegate pageout io to flusher thread if current is kswapd KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:05                       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15  8:17                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:26                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:30                             ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15 17:24                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-20  2:56                               ` Ying Han
2010-04-15  9:32                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  9:41                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 17:27                           ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15 23:33                             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 23:41                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-16  9:50                               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-17  3:06                                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  8:18                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:31                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 11:26                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:13                     ` [PATCH 2/4] vmscan: kill prev_priority completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:14                     ` [PATCH 3/4] vmscan: move priority variable into scan_control KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:15                     ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: delegate page cleaning io to flusher thread if VM pressure is low KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:35                     ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:32                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:44                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:58                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:20                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:35                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:54                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 10:21                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:23                             ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: simplify shrink_inactive_list() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:15                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 15:01                                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 15:44                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 16:54                                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 23:40                                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16  7:13                                         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 14:57                                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-17  2:37                                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 14:55                                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 18:22                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-04-16  9:39                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 2/4] [cleanup] mm: introduce free_pages_prepare KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:33                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: introduce free_pages_bulk KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:46                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:26                             ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: replace the pagevec in shrink_inactive_list() with list KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:28                   ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 13:42                     ` Chris Mason
2010-04-15 17:50                       ` tytso
2010-04-16 15:05                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 15:15                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-16  4:14                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 15:14                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-18  0:32                         ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:05                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 16:31                             ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:35                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 19:11                             ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 19:10                           ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 21:30                             ` James Bottomley
2010-04-18 23:34                               ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-19  3:08                               ` tytso
2010-04-19  0:35                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  0:49                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19  1:08                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  4:32                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19 15:20                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-23  1:06                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-23 10:50                             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 14:57                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15  2:37                 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15  2:43                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-16 23:56                     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14 10:06         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 11:20           ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14 12:15             ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 12:32               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-14 12:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 13:23             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 14:07               ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  0:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  4:44   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  7:54     ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-16  1:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-16  4:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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