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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:34:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100414123439.GS18855@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100414133229.134264f0@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 01:32:29PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > The only part of the 4K stack code that's good is the separate
> > interrupt stack, but that one should be just combined with a sane 8K 
> > process stack.
> 
> The reality is that if you are blowing a 4K process stack you are
> probably playing russian roulette on the current 8K x86-32 stack as well
> because of the non IRQ split. So it needs fixing either way

Yes I think the 8K stack on 32bit should be combined with a interrupt 
stack too. There's no reason not to have an interrupt stack ever. 

Again the problem with fixing it is that you won't have any safety net
for a slightly different stacking etc. path that you didn't cover.

That said extreme examples (like some of those Chris listed) definitely
need fixing by moving them to different threads. But even after that
you still want a safety net. 4K is just too near the edge.

Maybe it would work if we never used any indirect calls, but that's
clearly not the case.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-14 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13  0:17 [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  8:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 10:29   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 11:39     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 14:36       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  3:12         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  1:56             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:36           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 11:19   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 19:34     ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 20:20       ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  1:40         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  4:59           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14  5:41             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  5:54               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  6:13                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:19                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  9:42                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 10:01                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14 10:07                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 10:16                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:06                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:28             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  8:51               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15  1:34                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  4:09                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:11                     ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: delegate pageout io to flusher thread if current is kswapd KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:05                       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15  8:17                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:26                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:30                             ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15 17:24                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-20  2:56                               ` Ying Han
2010-04-15  9:32                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  9:41                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 17:27                           ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15 23:33                             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 23:41                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-16  9:50                               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-17  3:06                                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  8:18                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:31                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 11:26                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:13                     ` [PATCH 2/4] vmscan: kill prev_priority completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:14                     ` [PATCH 3/4] vmscan: move priority variable into scan_control KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:15                     ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: delegate page cleaning io to flusher thread if VM pressure is low KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:35                     ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:32                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:44                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:58                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:20                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:35                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:54                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 10:21                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:23                             ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: simplify shrink_inactive_list() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:15                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 15:01                                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 15:44                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 16:54                                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 23:40                                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16  7:13                                         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 14:57                                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-17  2:37                                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 14:55                                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 18:22                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-04-16  9:39                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 2/4] [cleanup] mm: introduce free_pages_prepare KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:33                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: introduce free_pages_bulk KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:46                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:26                             ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: replace the pagevec in shrink_inactive_list() with list KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:28                   ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 13:42                     ` Chris Mason
2010-04-15 17:50                       ` tytso
2010-04-16 15:05                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 15:15                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-16  4:14                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 15:14                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-18  0:32                         ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:05                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 16:31                             ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:35                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 19:11                             ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 19:10                           ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 21:30                             ` James Bottomley
2010-04-18 23:34                               ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-19  3:08                               ` tytso
2010-04-19  0:35                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  0:49                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19  1:08                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  4:32                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19 15:20                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-23  1:06                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-23 10:50                             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 14:57                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15  2:37                 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15  2:43                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-16 23:56                     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14 10:06         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 11:20           ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14 12:15             ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 12:32               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-14 12:34                 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2010-04-14 13:23             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 14:07               ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  0:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  4:44   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  7:54     ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-16  1:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-16  4:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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