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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:07:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100414100724.GK25756@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <q2m28c262361004140301jba94a025nda755c1df2e04155@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 07:01:47PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >> >>> > Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > >  50)     3168      64   xfs_vm_writepage+0xab/0x160 [xfs]
> >> >>> > >  51)     3104     384   shrink_page_list+0x65e/0x840
> >> >>> > >  52)     2720     528   shrink_zone+0x63f/0xe10
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > A bit OFF TOPIC.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Could you share disassemble of shrink_zone() ?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > In my environ.
> >> >>> > 00000000000115a0 <shrink_zone>:
> >> >>> >    115a0:       55                      push   %rbp
> >> >>> >    115a1:       48 89 e5                mov    %rsp,%rbp
> >> >>> >    115a4:       41 57                   push   %r15
> >> >>> >    115a6:       41 56                   push   %r14
> >> >>> >    115a8:       41 55                   push   %r13
> >> >>> >    115aa:       41 54                   push   %r12
> >> >>> >    115ac:       53                      push   %rbx
> >> >>> >    115ad:       48 83 ec 78             sub    $0x78,%rsp
> >> >>> >    115b1:       e8 00 00 00 00          callq  115b6 <shrink_zone+0x16>
> >> >>> >    115b6:       48 89 75 80             mov    %rsi,-0x80(%rbp)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > disassemble seems to show 0x78 bytes for stack. And no changes to %rsp
> >> >>> > until retrun.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I see the same. I didn't compile those kernels, though. IIUC,
> >> >>> they were built through the Ubuntu build infrastructure, so there is
> >> >>> something different in terms of compiler, compiler options or config
> >> >>> to what we are both using. Most likely it is the compiler inlining,
> >> >>> though Chris's patches to prevent that didn't seem to change the
> >> >>> stack usage.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm trying to get a stack trace from the kernel that has shrink_zone
> >> >>> in it, but I haven't succeeded yet....
> >> >>
> >> >> I also got 0x78 byte stack usage. Umm.. Do we discussed real issue now?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > In my case, 0x110 byte in 32 bit machine.
> >> > I think it's possible in 64 bit machine.
> >> >
> >> > 00001830 <shrink_zone>:
> >> >    1830:       55                      push   %ebp
> >> >    1831:       89 e5                   mov    %esp,%ebp
> >> >    1833:       57                      push   %edi
> >> >    1834:       56                      push   %esi
> >> >    1835:       53                      push   %ebx
> >> >    1836:       81 ec 10 01 00 00       sub    $0x110,%esp
> >> >    183c:       89 85 24 ff ff ff       mov    %eax,-0xdc(%ebp)
> >> >    1842:       89 95 20 ff ff ff       mov    %edx,-0xe0(%ebp)
> >> >    1848:       89 8d 1c ff ff ff       mov    %ecx,-0xe4(%ebp)
> >> >    184e:       8b 41 04                mov    0x4(%ecx)
> >> >
> >> > my gcc is following as.
> >> >
> >> > barrios@barriostarget:~/mmotm$ gcc -v
> >> > Using built-in specs.
> >> > Target: i486-linux-gnu
> >> > Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu
> >> > 4.3.3-5ubuntu4'
> >> > --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.3/README.Bugs
> >> > --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr
> >> > --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib
> >> > --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls
> >> > --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.3 --program-suffix=-4.3
> >> > --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-objc-gc
> >> > --enable-mpfr --enable-targets=all --with-tune=generic
> >> > --enable-checking=release --build=i486-linux-gnu --host=i486-linux-gnu
> >> > --target=i486-linux-gnu
> >> > Thread model: posix
> >> > gcc version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is it depends on config?
> >> > I attach my config.
> >>
> >> I changed shrink list by noinline_for_stack.
> >> The result is following as.
> >>
> >>
> >> 00001fe0 <shrink_zone>:
> >>     1fe0:       55                      push   %ebp
> >>     1fe1:       89 e5                   mov    %esp,%ebp
> >>     1fe3:       57                      push   %edi
> >>     1fe4:       56                      push   %esi
> >>     1fe5:       53                      push   %ebx
> >>     1fe6:       83 ec 4c                sub    $0x4c,%esp
> >>     1fe9:       89 45 c0                mov    %eax,-0x40(%ebp)
> >>     1fec:       89 55 bc                mov    %edx,-0x44(%ebp)
> >>     1fef:       89 4d b8                mov    %ecx,-0x48(%ebp)
> >>
> >> 0x110 -> 0x4c.
> >>
> >> Should we have to add noinline_for_stack for shrink_list?
> >>
> >
> > Hmm. about shirnk_zone(), I don't think uninlining functions directly called
> > by shrink_zone() can be a help.
> > Total stack size of call-chain will be still big.
> 
> Absolutely.
> But above 500 byte usage is one of hogger and uninlining is not
> critical about reclaim performance. So I think we don't get any lost
> than gain.
> 

Beat in mind that uninlining can slightly increase the stack usage in some
cases because arguments, return addresses and the like have to be pushed
onto the stack. Inlining or unlining is only the answer when it reduces the
number of stack variables that exist at any given time.

> But I don't get in a hurry. adhoc approach is not good.
> I hope when Mel tackles down consumption of stack in reclaim path, he
> modifies this part, too.
> 

It'll be at least two days before I get the chance to try. A lot of the
temporary variables used in the reclaim path have existed for some time so
it will take a while.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-14 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13  0:17 [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  8:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 10:29   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 11:39     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 14:36       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  3:12         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  1:56             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:36           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 11:19   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 19:34     ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 20:20       ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  1:40         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  4:59           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14  5:41             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  5:54               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  6:13                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:19                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  9:42                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 10:01                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14 10:07                         ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-04-14 10:16                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:06                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:28             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  8:51               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15  1:34                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  4:09                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:11                     ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: delegate pageout io to flusher thread if current is kswapd KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:05                       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15  8:17                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:26                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:30                             ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15 17:24                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-20  2:56                               ` Ying Han
2010-04-15  9:32                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  9:41                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 17:27                           ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15 23:33                             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 23:41                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-16  9:50                               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-17  3:06                                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  8:18                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:31                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 11:26                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:13                     ` [PATCH 2/4] vmscan: kill prev_priority completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:14                     ` [PATCH 3/4] vmscan: move priority variable into scan_control KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:15                     ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: delegate page cleaning io to flusher thread if VM pressure is low KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:35                     ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:32                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:44                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:58                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:20                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:35                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:54                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 10:21                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:23                             ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: simplify shrink_inactive_list() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:15                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 15:01                                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 15:44                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 16:54                                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 23:40                                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16  7:13                                         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 14:57                                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-17  2:37                                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 14:55                                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 18:22                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-04-16  9:39                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 2/4] [cleanup] mm: introduce free_pages_prepare KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:33                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: introduce free_pages_bulk KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:46                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:26                             ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: replace the pagevec in shrink_inactive_list() with list KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:28                   ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 13:42                     ` Chris Mason
2010-04-15 17:50                       ` tytso
2010-04-16 15:05                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 15:15                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-16  4:14                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 15:14                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-18  0:32                         ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:05                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 16:31                             ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:35                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 19:11                             ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 19:10                           ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 21:30                             ` James Bottomley
2010-04-18 23:34                               ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-19  3:08                               ` tytso
2010-04-19  0:35                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  0:49                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19  1:08                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  4:32                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19 15:20                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-23  1:06                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-23 10:50                             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 14:57                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15  2:37                 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15  2:43                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-16 23:56                     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14 10:06         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 11:20           ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14 12:15             ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 12:32               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-14 12:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 13:23             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 14:07               ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  0:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  4:44   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  7:54     ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-16  1:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-16  4:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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