From: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] sched: automated per tty task groups
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:17:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101116211735.GA16589@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101116205243.64e4a67a@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
On Tue, 16.11.10 20:52, Alan Cox (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) wrote:
>
> > Well, if I make behaviour like this default in systemd, then this means
> > there won't be user setup for this. Because the distros shipping systemd
> > will get this as default behaviour.
>
> And within the desktop where would you put this - in the window manager
> on the basis of top level windows or in the app startup ?
The plan with systemd is to make it manage both the system and the
sessions. It's along the lines of what launchd does on MacOS: one
instance for the system, another one for the user, because starting and
supervising a system service and a session service are actually very
very similar things.
In F15 we'll introduce systemd as an init system only. The next step
will be to make it manage sessions too, and replace/augment
gnome-session.
Lennart
--
Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.
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2010-10-19 9:16 [RFC/RFT PATCH] sched: automated per tty task groups Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19 9:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19 9:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21 7:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19 9:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 11:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 11:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-19 13:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 15:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-19 18:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-19 18:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-20 2:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-21 8:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21 8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-21 8:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21 8:48 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-10-21 8:52 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <20101021115723.GA1587@arch.trippelsdorf.de>
2010-10-21 16:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-21 10:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-10-21 11:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-21 16:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-21 19:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-26 7:07 ` [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] " Mike Galbraith
2010-10-26 7:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-26 15:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-27 1:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 15:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 18:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-11 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-11 19:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-11 20:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-11 19:15 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-11 19:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 19:38 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-11 19:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-11 20:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-11 22:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-12 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-13 11:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-14 17:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-14 17:49 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-14 18:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-14 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-14 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-14 20:27 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-14 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-14 23:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 0:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-15 0:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-15 1:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 3:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-15 14:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 8:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 11:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 11:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 12:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-15 21:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 22:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 1:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-17 8:06 ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-16 14:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 14:47 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-11-16 17:03 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 18:16 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 18:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 18:33 ` Paul Menage
2010-11-16 18:55 ` david
2010-11-16 18:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 19:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 19:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 19:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 19:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 19:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 19:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 20:03 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 20:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 19:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-16 20:21 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-16 20:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 20:31 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 13:21 ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-16 19:08 ` david
2010-11-16 20:33 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 20:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 21:14 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 13:23 ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-18 22:33 ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2010-11-18 23:12 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-18 23:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-18 23:43 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-18 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-19 0:02 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 0:07 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 14:24 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 14:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 14:55 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-19 0:59 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 1:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-19 1:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-19 1:23 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 2:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-19 9:02 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 11:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 12:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-19 13:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 13:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-19 12:31 ` Paul Menage
2010-11-19 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 13:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-19 12:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-22 6:22 ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-18 23:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 20:44 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-16 19:27 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-11-16 19:42 ` Diego Calleja
2010-11-16 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 19:56 ` Paul Menage
2010-11-16 20:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 20:50 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-20 22:16 ` Mika Laitio
2010-11-21 0:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 20:28 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 20:46 ` David Miller
2010-11-16 21:08 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 21:14 ` David Miller
2010-11-16 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-16 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 21:19 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 23:39 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 0:21 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 2:06 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 14:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-17 15:01 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 17:16 ` John Stoffel
2010-11-19 5:20 ` Andev
2010-11-19 11:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 13:03 ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-19 13:07 ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-19 16:29 ` David Miller
2010-11-19 16:34 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-19 16:43 ` David Miller
2010-11-19 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-19 19:12 ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-19 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-20 1:33 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-19 20:38 ` Paul Menage
2010-11-20 1:13 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-20 4:25 ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-20 15:41 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-22 6:24 ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-22 19:21 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-19 19:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-19 13:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 22:34 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 22:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 22:45 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-17 22:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 15:00 ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-17 23:49 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 21:17 ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2010-11-17 20:59 ` James Cloos
2010-11-22 6:16 ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-16 18:57 ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-16 19:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-16 19:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 20:36 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 19:42 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-11-16 18:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 18:56 ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-16 20:05 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 20:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 0:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-19 0:42 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-19 3:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
[not found] ` <20101120090955.GB12043@balbir.in.ibm.com>
2010-11-20 19:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 13:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-16 14:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 15:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-16 15:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 17:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 17:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-20 19:35 ` [PATCH v4] sched: automated per session " Mike Galbraith
2010-11-30 15:39 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Add 'autogroup' scheduling feature: " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2010-12-15 17:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-16 7:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-16 14:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-16 15:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-04 14:18 ` [tip:sched/core] sched, autogroup: Fix potential access to freed memory tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2010-12-20 13:08 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Add 'autogroup' scheduling feature: automated per session task groups Bharata B Rao
2010-12-20 13:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 15:46 ` Bharata B Rao
2010-12-20 15:53 ` Bharata B Rao
2010-12-21 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 16:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-21 5:04 ` Bharata B Rao
2010-12-21 5:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-04 17:39 ` [PATCH v4] sched: " Colin Walters
2010-12-04 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-04 20:01 ` Colin Walters
2010-12-04 22:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-04 23:43 ` Colin Walters
2010-12-05 0:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-05 7:47 ` Ray Lee
2010-12-05 19:22 ` Colin Walters
2010-12-05 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-05 22:47 ` Colin Walters
2010-12-05 22:58 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-12-05 23:05 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-12-07 18:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-05 10:18 ` Con Kolivas
2010-12-05 11:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-05 20:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-12-04 23:31 ` david
2010-12-05 11:11 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-12-05 15:12 ` [PATCH v4] Regression: " Alan Cox
2010-12-05 16:16 ` Florian Mickler
2010-12-05 19:48 ` Alan Cox
2010-12-06 16:03 ` Florian Mickler
2010-12-05 16:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-05 17:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-05 17:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-06 0:28 ` [PATCH v4] " Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-16 14:01 ` [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] sched: automated per tty " Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 14:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-17 1:31 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-17 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-17 1:56 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-17 2:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 0:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 22:41 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-15 23:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-20 19:33 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-20 19:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-20 20:37 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-20 22:02 ` Konstantin Svist
2010-11-20 22:15 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-20 22:18 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2010-11-20 20:25 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-15 23:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 23:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 0:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 1:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 1:55 ` Paul Menage
2010-11-16 12:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 18:25 ` Paul Menage
2010-11-16 13:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 14:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-10-21 11:27 ` [RFC/RFT PATCH] " Mike Galbraith
2010-10-20 13:55 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2010-10-20 14:41 ` Mike Galbraith
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