From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>, Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
keyrings@linux-nfs.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 03:28:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130226032839.GA30164@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130226032508.GA12906@thunk.org>
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:25:08PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 03:13:38AM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >
> > Because Microsoft have indicated that they'd be taking a reactive
> > approach to blacklisting and because, so far, nobody has decided to
> > write the trivial proof of concept that demonstrates the problem.
>
> Microsoft would take a severe hit both from a PR perspective, as well
> as incurring significant legal risks if they did that in certain
> jourisdictions --- in particular, I suspect in Europe, if Microsoft
> were to break the ability of Linux distributions from booting, it
> would be significantly frowned upon.
If a Linux vendor chose to knowingly breach the obligations they agreed
to, you don't think there'd be any PR hit?
> So Microsoft may have privately threatened this to certain Red Hat
> attendees (threats are cheap, but it's not obvious that they would
> necessarily follow through on this threat.
You're happy advising Linux vendors that they don't need to worry about
module signing because it's "not obvious" that Microsoft would actually
enforce the security model they've spent significant money developing
and advertising?
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-26 3:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-21 15:47 [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries David Howells
2013-02-21 16:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 16:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 16:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 17:49 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 18:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-22 14:05 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-25 14:46 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 15:50 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 16:14 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 16:20 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-26 21:40 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 22:19 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-21 18:17 ` David Howells
2013-02-21 18:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 14:33 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 18:34 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-21 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 19:10 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-21 19:10 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 20:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-21 20:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 20:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-18 2:12 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-03-19 18:11 ` David Howells
2013-03-20 16:52 ` David Howells
2013-03-20 23:28 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-02-21 20:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-25 14:28 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 21:08 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 23:51 ` David Howells
2013-02-26 0:59 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 2:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:02 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 3:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 3:28 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2013-02-26 3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26 3:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26 3:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 4:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26 4:57 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 15:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-26 15:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-27 17:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-26 21:30 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 21:40 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-26 22:35 ` Al Viro
2013-02-26 3:40 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 3:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 19:30 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 19:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:31 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 3:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:54 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 4:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 4:13 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 4:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 4:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26 4:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 21:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-26 22:06 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-27 12:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-27 12:43 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-27 14:14 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-26 4:25 ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-26 4:45 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 4:55 ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-26 6:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 6:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 10:07 ` Raymond Jennings
2013-02-26 10:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 16:45 ` Kent Yoder
2013-02-26 16:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-27 15:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 17:36 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-27 17:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 19:21 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-27 19:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 19:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-27 21:31 ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-28 6:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-28 7:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-26 19:40 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 19:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 4:50 ` Greg KH
2013-02-28 7:57 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 15:43 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-28 19:26 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 19:30 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 19:41 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 19:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 20:23 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 20:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 13:34 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-26 14:16 ` Raymond Jennings
2013-02-26 15:11 ` David Howells
2013-02-26 16:50 ` Greg KH
2013-02-27 9:35 ` ownssh
2013-02-27 10:17 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2013-02-27 11:27 ` Alexander Holler
2013-02-27 11:49 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2013-02-27 14:56 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-27 20:35 ` ownssh
2013-03-01 18:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-01 18:39 ` Gene Heskett
2013-02-28 22:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 22:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 23:05 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:45 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 23:47 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-01 0:00 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-01 0:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-01 10:00 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2013-03-01 14:30 ` Theodore Ts'o
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