From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>, Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
keyrings@linux-nfs.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:45:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130226044521.GC12906@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9tzTXL_mystUa2=hGGzNZaYH==pMwt_PMLsWuqpRTs335g@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 02:25:55PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
>
> Its a simple argument, MS can revoke our keys for whatever reason,
> reducing the surface area of reasons for them to do so seems like a
> good idea. Unless someone can read the mind of the MS guy that
> arbitrarily decides this in 5 years time, or has some sort of signed
> agreement, I tend towards protecting the users from having their Linux
> not work anymore, because we were scared of a PE loader in the kernel.
If Microsoft will revoke keys for whatever reason they want, without
any regard to the potential PR and legal consequences to Microsoft,
there's absolutely **nothing** you can do, short of choosing to use
more open hardware (for example, like the Chromebook Pixel).
If you're that terrified of the completely arbitrary and capricious
Microsoft guy having us by the short hairs, why aid and abet Microsoft
control-freak model?
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-26 4:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-21 15:47 [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries David Howells
2013-02-21 16:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 16:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 16:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 17:49 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 18:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-22 14:05 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-25 14:46 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 15:50 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 16:14 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 16:20 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-26 21:40 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 22:19 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-21 18:17 ` David Howells
2013-02-21 18:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 14:33 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 18:34 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-21 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 19:10 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-21 19:10 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 20:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-21 20:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 20:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-18 2:12 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-03-19 18:11 ` David Howells
2013-03-20 16:52 ` David Howells
2013-03-20 23:28 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-02-21 20:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-25 14:28 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 21:08 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 23:51 ` David Howells
2013-02-26 0:59 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 2:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:02 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 3:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 3:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26 3:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26 3:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 4:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26 4:57 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 15:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-26 15:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-27 17:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-26 21:30 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 21:40 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-26 22:35 ` Al Viro
2013-02-26 3:40 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 3:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 19:30 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 19:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:31 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 3:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 3:54 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 4:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 4:13 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 4:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 4:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26 4:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 21:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-26 22:06 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-27 12:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-27 12:43 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-27 14:14 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-26 4:25 ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-26 4:45 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2013-02-26 4:55 ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-26 6:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 6:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 10:07 ` Raymond Jennings
2013-02-26 10:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 16:45 ` Kent Yoder
2013-02-26 16:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-27 15:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 17:36 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-27 17:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 19:21 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-27 19:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 19:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-27 21:31 ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-28 6:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-28 7:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-26 19:40 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 19:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 4:50 ` Greg KH
2013-02-28 7:57 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 15:43 ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-28 19:26 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 19:30 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 19:41 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 19:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 20:23 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 20:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 13:34 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-26 14:16 ` Raymond Jennings
2013-02-26 15:11 ` David Howells
2013-02-26 16:50 ` Greg KH
2013-02-27 9:35 ` ownssh
2013-02-27 10:17 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2013-02-27 11:27 ` Alexander Holler
2013-02-27 11:49 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2013-02-27 14:56 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-27 20:35 ` ownssh
2013-03-01 18:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-01 18:39 ` Gene Heskett
2013-02-28 22:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 22:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 23:05 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:45 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 23:47 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-01 0:00 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-01 0:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-01 10:00 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2013-03-01 14:30 ` Theodore Ts'o
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