From: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.demon.co.uk>
To: Hannu Savolainen <hannu@opensound.com>
Cc: Marcin Dalecki <martin@dalecki.de>,
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
Tomasz Torcz <zdzichu@irc.pl>,
Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>,
Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org,
zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org,
parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com,
Thorsten Knabe <linux@thorsten-knabe.de>,
zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:54:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43BE3E3D.7050506@superbug.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601060302370.29362@zeus.compusonic.fi>
Hannu Savolainen wrote:
>
> Btw, about the current OSS drivers in the kernel. They are really obsolete
> because they are based on some 10 years old API version. For this reason
> it's necessary to remove them in the nearish future (maybe at the same
> time when we release the OpenOSS version). Comparing ALSA against the
> kernel OSS drivers is pointless because current OSS has very little
> common with that code.
Hannu,
This is the LKML. So, we are considering KERNEL code. Not some external
binary blob. We are therefore suggesting to remove the kernel OSS
drivers as that is all we have to compare with ALSA.
We can't compare a binary blob with open source as the binary blob will
never be part of mainline.
Even you admit that the OSS drivers in the kernel mainline are "really
obsolete", so you must agree with this thread that we should remove them.
Only if your binary blobs are released as GPL so that they can be
included in mainline can it really be any use to discuss them.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-06 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 289+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-26 15:08 [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 15:41 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-26 15:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 15:41 ` Thomas Sailer
2005-07-26 15:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-07-26 16:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 16:49 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-26 17:49 ` John W. Linville
2005-07-26 17:03 ` Gene Heskett
2005-07-26 18:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-27 3:19 ` Gene Heskett
2005-07-26 15:51 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-26 15:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-07-26 16:02 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-27 18:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-27 20:31 ` John W. Linville
2005-07-27 20:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-07-28 14:00 ` Alan Cox
2005-07-28 13:43 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2005-07-28 14:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 13:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 16:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 16:17 ` Andrew Haninger
2005-07-31 19:29 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-26 16:27 ` Zach Brown
2005-07-26 21:41 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-07-26 23:38 ` Zoran Dzelajlija
2005-07-27 23:28 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-27 23:58 ` Rogério Brito
2005-07-28 8:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2005-07-31 19:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-27 18:39 ` Kyle McMartin
2005-07-28 3:01 ` [parisc-linux] " Randolph Chung
2005-07-28 14:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-28 15:04 ` Thorsten Knabe
2005-07-28 15:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-28 18:33 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2005-07-29 6:52 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2005-07-29 15:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-29 15:58 ` Thorsten Knabe
2005-07-31 19:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-08-01 14:26 ` Andrew Haninger
2005-08-02 0:13 ` Thorsten Knabe
2005-08-02 5:05 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 12:59 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-08-02 15:55 ` Thorsten Knabe
2005-07-31 13:38 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-03 13:21 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-03 13:47 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 13:52 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-03 13:58 ` David Lang
2006-01-03 14:33 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 14:34 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 14:01 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 18:24 ` Lee Revell
[not found] ` <mailman.1136300646.6679.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2006-01-04 11:13 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-04 11:16 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-03 14:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-03 14:41 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 14:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-03 15:22 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 16:05 ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-03 16:29 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 17:03 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 17:16 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-03 19:24 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 19:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 21:40 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-03 23:10 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04 0:33 ` Thomas Sailer
2006-01-04 1:48 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-04 9:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-04 9:37 ` [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity Alistair John Strachan
[not found] ` <mailman.1136368805.14661.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2006-01-04 11:00 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-04 11:35 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-04 11:47 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-04 14:23 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-05 11:41 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05 12:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-05 12:23 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-05 14:21 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05 14:56 ` [parisc-linux] " Alan Cox
2006-01-05 21:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05 15:07 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-05 16:14 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-05 17:19 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:13 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-07 14:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-08 2:03 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-08 2:26 ` Martin Drab
2006-01-08 13:21 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-08 13:32 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-08 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-09 0:33 ` [Alsa-devel] " Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-09 12:24 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-09 17:49 ` Thierry Vignaud
2006-01-08 9:42 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-08 13:04 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-08 13:23 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-08 13:38 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-09 0:30 ` [Alsa-devel] " Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-05 23:06 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-05 23:39 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:56 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 0:03 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:40 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:59 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 15:03 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-06 15:48 ` Erik Mouw
2006-01-06 18:37 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-10 9:43 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 13:42 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10 14:08 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 14:17 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10 20:13 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06 0:14 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06 0:29 ` Martin Drab
2006-01-06 0:57 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06 1:49 ` Martin Drab
2006-01-06 1:21 ` Zan Lynx
2006-01-06 15:17 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-09 23:55 ` jerome lacoste
2006-01-10 2:29 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-06 3:14 ` Edgar Toernig
2006-01-06 3:33 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 11:34 ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-06 7:47 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-07 14:45 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601080225500.17252@zeus.compusonic.fi>
2006-01-08 9:24 ` [Alsa-devel] " Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-09 13:05 ` René Rebe
2006-01-09 15:10 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-09 17:12 ` René Rebe
2006-01-09 21:58 ` David Lang
2006-01-09 23:20 ` John Rigg
2006-01-09 23:21 ` David Lang
2006-01-10 0:16 ` John Rigg
2006-01-10 0:29 ` David Lang
2006-01-10 0:44 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-10 1:56 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-10 1:27 ` John Rigg
2006-01-10 1:02 ` John Rigg
2006-01-10 0:48 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10 2:00 ` John Rigg
2006-01-10 2:17 ` Hannu Savolainen
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601090010090.31763@zeus.compusonic.fi>
2006-01-10 10:51 ` Jaroslav Kysela
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601101550390.24146@zeus.compusonic.fi>
2006-01-10 14:17 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 14:39 ` Adam Tlałka
2006-01-05 18:56 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 22:39 ` Joern Nettingsmeier
2006-01-05 23:44 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-05 23:49 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-06 0:22 ` Joern Nettingsmeier
2006-01-06 1:30 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-06 2:20 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10 9:54 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 13:50 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 0:00 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 12:47 ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
2006-01-04 12:13 ` [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Joern Nettingsmeier
2006-01-04 12:35 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-04 12:41 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-04 17:31 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-04 17:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-05 6:42 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-03 18:28 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-03 19:30 ` Thomas Sailer
2006-01-03 19:37 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-03 19:56 ` Thomas Sailer
2006-01-03 20:06 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-04 0:23 ` Thomas Sailer
2006-01-03 22:39 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-03 20:22 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-03 20:37 ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-03 20:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-03 20:56 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-03 21:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 22:11 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-04 11:46 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-04 14:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-04 16:43 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 10:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05 12:44 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 18:33 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:03 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:05 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:18 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:28 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:32 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:39 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:32 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:54 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 21:01 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 21:43 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 21:47 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:35 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-06 0:04 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06 0:08 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-06 1:36 ` Hannu Savolainen
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2006-01-08 0:21 ` Hannu Savolainen
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2006-01-03 22:13 ` Tomasz Torcz
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2006-01-04 1:01 ` Adrian Bunk
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2006-01-04 10:37 ` tapas
2006-01-04 17:28 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-05 7:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-04 17:54 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-04 18:17 ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-04 19:28 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-04 19:52 ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-05 7:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05 11:15 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-05 21:20 ` Jim Crilly
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