Re: RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch

From: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
To: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
Cc: Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 11:11:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACT4Y+Z_u-woXGyvdb6sS9_OaxptpLfg_RUg_EdknJfWdMwMSw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191015085746.GA9401@dcvr>

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:57 AM Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
>
> Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
> > As one data point, I cannot send emails with git send-email anymore.
> > It used to work, then broke and I don't know how to fix it. Now it says:
> >
> > 5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at
> > 5.7.8  https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BadCredentials
> > s10sm8376885wrr.5 - gsmtp
> >
> > I suspect it has something to do with two factor auth.
> > So that's it: it cannot contribute to kernel right now.
> > I will not consider time spent fixing it as useful time investment.
>
> I'm sorry you feel that way about time investments...
> But I've always assumed that's also the sentiment for time spent
> learning ANY new tools or workflow changes that come along.

This is true. But the fact that there is a learning curve to anything
does not justify any learning curve for everything. Some parts of
technology may be isolated completely and one does not need to learn
anything about that part. For example, today to compile a high-level
language one generally does not need to learn anything about machine
instructions. So the question is: is SMTP/IMAP is something that
inherently needs to be learned for contribution to kernel or it can be
hidden/not required/made simpler? And looking at github/facebook I
would assume that contributors do not have to be exposed to that.

> > Any kernel documentation that I can find for gmail, mentions config
> > that I am already using and that is not working:
> > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/search.html?q=gmail&check_keywords=yes&area=default#
> > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/email-clients.html?highlight=gmail
>
> Fwiw, git-send-email(1) manpage also has a special section for gmail:
>
>   https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
>
> and a link for app-specific passwords:
>
>   https://security.google.com/settings/security/apppasswords
>
> Perhaps that helps?

For me that page says "The setting you are looking for is not
available for your account".
I suspect app passwords work if 2-factor auth is enabled, but what
enabled on my account is "Use your phone to sign in", which is
different from 2-factor auth setting.