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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com
Cc: "Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	bvanassche@acm.org,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	zwisler@kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [driver-core PATCH v6 6/9] driver core: Probe devices asynchronously instead of the driver
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:48:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4g0LNJZ38NKMXsBY+GgmGbHR4VrTM1gkm3m4bg6fOrfsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <154170043123.12967.3591757325647337726.stgit@ahduyck-desk1.jf.intel.com>

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:07 AM Alexander Duyck
<alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> Probe devices asynchronously instead of the driver. This results in us
> seeing the same behavior if the device is registered before the driver or
> after. This way we can avoid serializing the initialization should the
> driver not be loaded until after the devices have already been added.
>
> The motivation behind this is that if we have a set of devices that
> take a significant amount of time to load we can greatly reduce the time to
> load by processing them in parallel instead of one at a time. In addition,
> each device can exist on a different node so placing a single thread on one
> CPU to initialize all of the devices for a given driver can result in poor
> performance on a system with multiple nodes.

Do you have numbers on effects of this change individually? Is this
change necessary for the libnvdimm init speedup, or is it independent?

> I am using the driver_data member of the device struct to store the driver
> pointer while we wait on the deferred probe call. This should be safe to do
> as the value will either be set to NULL on a failed probe or driver load
> followed by unload, or the driver value itself will be set on a successful
> driver load. In addition I have used the async_probe flag to add additional
> protection as it will be cleared if someone overwrites the driver_data
> member as a part of loading the driver.

I would not put it past a device-driver to call dev_get_drvdata()
before dev_set_drvdata(), to check "has this device already been
initialized". So I don't think it is safe to assume that the core can
stash this information in ->driver_data. Why not put this
infrastructure in struct device_private?
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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	zwisler@kernel.org, Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	bvanassche@acm.org
Subject: Re: [driver-core PATCH v6 6/9] driver core: Probe devices asynchronously instead of the driver
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:48:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4g0LNJZ38NKMXsBY+GgmGbHR4VrTM1gkm3m4bg6fOrfsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <154170043123.12967.3591757325647337726.stgit@ahduyck-desk1.jf.intel.com>

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:07 AM Alexander Duyck
<alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> Probe devices asynchronously instead of the driver. This results in us
> seeing the same behavior if the device is registered before the driver or
> after. This way we can avoid serializing the initialization should the
> driver not be loaded until after the devices have already been added.
>
> The motivation behind this is that if we have a set of devices that
> take a significant amount of time to load we can greatly reduce the time to
> load by processing them in parallel instead of one at a time. In addition,
> each device can exist on a different node so placing a single thread on one
> CPU to initialize all of the devices for a given driver can result in poor
> performance on a system with multiple nodes.

Do you have numbers on effects of this change individually? Is this
change necessary for the libnvdimm init speedup, or is it independent?

> I am using the driver_data member of the device struct to store the driver
> pointer while we wait on the deferred probe call. This should be safe to do
> as the value will either be set to NULL on a failed probe or driver load
> followed by unload, or the driver value itself will be set on a successful
> driver load. In addition I have used the async_probe flag to add additional
> protection as it will be cleared if someone overwrites the driver_data
> member as a part of loading the driver.

I would not put it past a device-driver to call dev_get_drvdata()
before dev_set_drvdata(), to check "has this device already been
initialized". So I don't think it is safe to assume that the core can
stash this information in ->driver_data. Why not put this
infrastructure in struct device_private?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: alexander.h.duyck-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org
Cc: "Brown, Len" <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	bvanassche-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org,
	Linux-pm mailing list
	<linux-pm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg KH
	<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nvdimm
	<linux-nvdimm-hn68Rpc1hR1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	jiangshanlai-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>,
	zwisler-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki"
	<rafael-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [driver-core PATCH v6 6/9] driver core: Probe devices asynchronously instead of the driver
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:48:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4g0LNJZ38NKMXsBY+GgmGbHR4VrTM1gkm3m4bg6fOrfsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <154170043123.12967.3591757325647337726.stgit-+uVpp3jiz/RcxmDmkzA3yGt3HXsI98Cx0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:07 AM Alexander Duyck
<alexander.h.duyck-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Probe devices asynchronously instead of the driver. This results in us
> seeing the same behavior if the device is registered before the driver or
> after. This way we can avoid serializing the initialization should the
> driver not be loaded until after the devices have already been added.
>
> The motivation behind this is that if we have a set of devices that
> take a significant amount of time to load we can greatly reduce the time to
> load by processing them in parallel instead of one at a time. In addition,
> each device can exist on a different node so placing a single thread on one
> CPU to initialize all of the devices for a given driver can result in poor
> performance on a system with multiple nodes.

Do you have numbers on effects of this change individually? Is this
change necessary for the libnvdimm init speedup, or is it independent?

> I am using the driver_data member of the device struct to store the driver
> pointer while we wait on the deferred probe call. This should be safe to do
> as the value will either be set to NULL on a failed probe or driver load
> followed by unload, or the driver value itself will be set on a successful
> driver load. In addition I have used the async_probe flag to add additional
> protection as it will be cleared if someone overwrites the driver_data
> member as a part of loading the driver.

I would not put it past a device-driver to call dev_get_drvdata()
before dev_set_drvdata(), to check "has this device already been
initialized". So I don't think it is safe to assume that the core can
stash this information in ->driver_data. Why not put this
infrastructure in struct device_private?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-27  2:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-08 18:06 [driver-core PATCH v6 0/9] Add NUMA aware async_schedule calls Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 1/9] workqueue: Provide queue_work_node to queue work near a given NUMA node Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  1:01   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  1:01     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:06 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 2/9] async: Add support for queueing on specific " Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 23:36   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:36     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:36     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-11 19:32   ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 19:32     ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 19:32     ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 19:53     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 19:53       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 19:53       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 20:35       ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 20:35         ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 20:35         ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 22:17         ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 22:17           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 22:17           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 23:27         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-11 23:27           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-11 23:27           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-11 19:59     ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-11 20:33       ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 20:33         ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 21:24         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-11 21:24           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-13 22:10         ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-27  1:10   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  1:10     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  1:10     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:06 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 3/9] device core: Consolidate locking and unlocking of parent and device Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 22:43   ` jane.chu
2018-11-08 22:43     ` jane.chu-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA
2018-11-08 22:43     ` jane.chu
2018-11-08 22:48     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 22:48       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  1:44   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  1:44     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 4/9] driver core: Move async_synchronize_full call Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  2:11   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  2:11     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:38     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 17:38       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 20:35       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 20:35         ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 21:36         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 21:36           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 22:26           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 22:26             ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 22:26             ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 5/9] driver core: Establish clear order of operations for deferred probe and remove Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 23:47   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:47     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:47     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 6/9] driver core: Probe devices asynchronously instead of the driver Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 23:59   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:59     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27  2:48   ` Dan Williams [this message]
2018-11-27  2:48     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  2:48     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:57     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 17:57       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 18:32       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 18:32         ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 7/9] driver core: Attach devices on CPU local to device node Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  4:50   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  4:50     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  4:50     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 8/9] PM core: Use new async_schedule_dev command Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  4:52   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  4:52     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  4:52     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 9/9] libnvdimm: Schedule device registration on node local to the device Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  2:21   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  2:21     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  2:21     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 18:04     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 19:34       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 19:34         ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 20:33         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 20:33           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 20:33           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 20:50           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 20:50             ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 20:50             ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 21:22             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 21:22               ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 21:22               ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 22:34               ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 22:34                 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 22:34                 ` Dan Williams

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