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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com
Cc: "Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	bvanassche@acm.org,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	zwisler@kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [driver-core PATCH v6 9/9] libnvdimm: Schedule device registration on node local to the device
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:34:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gWwsYOeXVNDoDy4v=SU6bRyBG1fgSu84y64jGApaJ91g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2031cf4705d76dd4d0f722a600a6a106cce2ba41.camel@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:04 AM Alexander Duyck
<alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 18:21 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:07 AM Alexander Duyck
> > <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Force the device registration for nvdimm devices to be closer to the actual
> > > device. This is achieved by using either the NUMA node ID of the region, or
> > > of the parent. By doing this we can have everything above the region based
> > > on the region, and everything below the region based on the nvdimm bus.
> > >
> > > By guaranteeing NUMA locality I see an improvement of as high as 25% for
> > > per-node init of a system with 12TB of persistent memory.
> > >
> >
> > It seems the speed-up is achieved with just patches 1, 2, and 9 from
> > this series, correct? I wouldn't want to hold up that benefit while
> > the driver-core bits are debated.
>
> Actually patch 6 ends up impacting things for persistent memory as
> well. The problem is that all the async calls to add interfaces only do
> anything if the driver is already loaded. So there are cases such as
> the X86_PMEM_LEGACY_DEVICE case where the memory regions end up still
> being serialized because the devices are added before the driver.

Ok, but is the patch 6 change generally useful outside of the
libnvdimm case? Yes, local hacks like MODULE_SOFTDEP are terrible for
global problems, but what I'm trying to tease out if this change
benefits other async probing subsystems outside of libnvdimm, SCSI
perhaps? Bart can you chime in with the benefits you see so it's clear
to Greg that the driver-core changes are a generic improvement?

> > You can add:
> >
> >     Reviewed-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> >
> > ...if the series needs to be kept together, but as far as I can see
> > the workqueue changes enable 2 sub-topics of development and it might
> > make sense for Tejun to take those first 2 and then Greg and I can
> > base any follow-up topics on that stable baseline.
>
> I had originally put this out there for Tejun to apply, but him and
> Greg had talked and Greg agreed to apply the set. If it works for you I
> would prefer to just keep it together for now as I don't believe there
> will be too many more revisions of this needed.
>

That works for me.
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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	zwisler@kernel.org, Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	bvanassche@acm.org
Subject: Re: [driver-core PATCH v6 9/9] libnvdimm: Schedule device registration on node local to the device
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:34:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gWwsYOeXVNDoDy4v=SU6bRyBG1fgSu84y64jGApaJ91g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2031cf4705d76dd4d0f722a600a6a106cce2ba41.camel@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:04 AM Alexander Duyck
<alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 18:21 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:07 AM Alexander Duyck
> > <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Force the device registration for nvdimm devices to be closer to the actual
> > > device. This is achieved by using either the NUMA node ID of the region, or
> > > of the parent. By doing this we can have everything above the region based
> > > on the region, and everything below the region based on the nvdimm bus.
> > >
> > > By guaranteeing NUMA locality I see an improvement of as high as 25% for
> > > per-node init of a system with 12TB of persistent memory.
> > >
> >
> > It seems the speed-up is achieved with just patches 1, 2, and 9 from
> > this series, correct? I wouldn't want to hold up that benefit while
> > the driver-core bits are debated.
>
> Actually patch 6 ends up impacting things for persistent memory as
> well. The problem is that all the async calls to add interfaces only do
> anything if the driver is already loaded. So there are cases such as
> the X86_PMEM_LEGACY_DEVICE case where the memory regions end up still
> being serialized because the devices are added before the driver.

Ok, but is the patch 6 change generally useful outside of the
libnvdimm case? Yes, local hacks like MODULE_SOFTDEP are terrible for
global problems, but what I'm trying to tease out if this change
benefits other async probing subsystems outside of libnvdimm, SCSI
perhaps? Bart can you chime in with the benefits you see so it's clear
to Greg that the driver-core changes are a generic improvement?

> > You can add:
> >
> >     Reviewed-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> >
> > ...if the series needs to be kept together, but as far as I can see
> > the workqueue changes enable 2 sub-topics of development and it might
> > make sense for Tejun to take those first 2 and then Greg and I can
> > base any follow-up topics on that stable baseline.
>
> I had originally put this out there for Tejun to apply, but him and
> Greg had talked and Greg agreed to apply the set. If it works for you I
> would prefer to just keep it together for now as I don't believe there
> will be too many more revisions of this needed.
>

That works for me.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-27 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-08 18:06 [driver-core PATCH v6 0/9] Add NUMA aware async_schedule calls Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 1/9] workqueue: Provide queue_work_node to queue work near a given NUMA node Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  1:01   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  1:01     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:06 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 2/9] async: Add support for queueing on specific " Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 23:36   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:36     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:36     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-11 19:32   ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 19:32     ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 19:32     ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 19:53     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 19:53       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 19:53       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 20:35       ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 20:35         ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 20:35         ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 22:17         ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 22:17           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 22:17           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-11 23:27         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-11 23:27           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-11 23:27           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-11 19:59     ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-11 20:33       ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 20:33         ` Greg KH
2018-11-11 21:24         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-11 21:24           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-13 22:10         ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-27  1:10   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  1:10     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  1:10     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:06 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 3/9] device core: Consolidate locking and unlocking of parent and device Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:06   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 22:43   ` jane.chu
2018-11-08 22:43     ` jane.chu-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA
2018-11-08 22:43     ` jane.chu
2018-11-08 22:48     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 22:48       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  1:44   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  1:44     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 4/9] driver core: Move async_synchronize_full call Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  2:11   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  2:11     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:38     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 17:38       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 20:35       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 20:35         ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 21:36         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 21:36           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 22:26           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 22:26             ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 22:26             ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 5/9] driver core: Establish clear order of operations for deferred probe and remove Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 23:47   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:47     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:47     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 6/9] driver core: Probe devices asynchronously instead of the driver Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 23:59   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-08 23:59     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27  2:48   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  2:48     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  2:48     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:57     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 17:57       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 18:32       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 18:32         ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 7/9] driver core: Attach devices on CPU local to device node Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  4:50   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  4:50     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  4:50     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 8/9] PM core: Use new async_schedule_dev command Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  4:52   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  4:52     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  4:52     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 18:07 ` [driver-core PATCH v6 9/9] libnvdimm: Schedule device registration on node local to the device Alexander Duyck
2018-11-08 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27  2:21   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  2:21     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27  2:21     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 18:04     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-11-27 19:34       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2018-11-27 19:34         ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 20:33         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 20:33           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 20:33           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 20:50           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 20:50             ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 20:50             ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 21:22             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 21:22               ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 21:22               ` Bart Van Assche
2018-11-27 22:34               ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 22:34                 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 22:34                 ` Dan Williams

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