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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: "Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Scott Moser" <smoser@ubuntu.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Michael Tokarev" <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Cole Robinson" <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:06:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506C0E41.3000405@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121003095532.GO23096@redhat.com>

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On 2012-10-03 11:55, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 03:26:05PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2012-10-01 15:19, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-10-01 11:31, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's not just about default configs. We need to validate if the
>>>> migration formats are truly compatible (qemu-kvm -> QEMU, the other way
>>>> around definitely not). For the command line switches, we could provide
>>>> a wrapper script that translates them into upstream format or simply
>>>> ignores them. That should be harmless to carry upstream.
>>>
>>> qemu-kvm has:
>>>
>>>  -no-kvm
>>>  -no-kvm-irqchip
>>>  -no-kvm-pit
>>>  -no-kvm-pit-reinjection
>>>  -tdf <- does nothing
>>>
>>> There are replacements for all of the above.  If we need to add them to
>>> qemu.git, it's not big deal to add them.
>>
>> But I don't think we should add them to the source code. This can
>> perfectly be handled my a (disposable) script layer on top of
>> qemu-system-x86_64 - the namespace (qemu-kvm in most cases) is also free.
>>
>>>
>>>  -drive ...,boot= <- this is ignored
>>>
>>> cpu_set command for CPU hotplug which is known broken in qemu-kvm.
>>
>> Right, so nothing is lost when migrating to QEMU.
>>
>>>
>>> testdev which is nice but only used for development
>>>
> Jan, do you have a plan for testdev device? It would be a pity to have
> qemu-kvm just for that.

Nope, not on my schedule.

Jan



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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Scott Moser" <smoser@ubuntu.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Michael Tokarev" <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Cole Robinson" <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:06:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506C0E41.3000405@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121003095532.GO23096@redhat.com>

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On 2012-10-03 11:55, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 03:26:05PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2012-10-01 15:19, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-10-01 11:31, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's not just about default configs. We need to validate if the
>>>> migration formats are truly compatible (qemu-kvm -> QEMU, the other way
>>>> around definitely not). For the command line switches, we could provide
>>>> a wrapper script that translates them into upstream format or simply
>>>> ignores them. That should be harmless to carry upstream.
>>>
>>> qemu-kvm has:
>>>
>>>  -no-kvm
>>>  -no-kvm-irqchip
>>>  -no-kvm-pit
>>>  -no-kvm-pit-reinjection
>>>  -tdf <- does nothing
>>>
>>> There are replacements for all of the above.  If we need to add them to
>>> qemu.git, it's not big deal to add them.
>>
>> But I don't think we should add them to the source code. This can
>> perfectly be handled my a (disposable) script layer on top of
>> qemu-system-x86_64 - the namespace (qemu-kvm in most cases) is also free.
>>
>>>
>>>  -drive ...,boot= <- this is ignored
>>>
>>> cpu_set command for CPU hotplug which is known broken in qemu-kvm.
>>
>> Right, so nothing is lost when migrating to QEMU.
>>
>>>
>>> testdev which is nice but only used for development
>>>
> Jan, do you have a plan for testdev device? It would be a pity to have
> qemu-kvm just for that.

Nope, not on my schedule.

Jan



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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-03 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-30 19:11 qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01  1:02 ` Amos Kong
2012-10-01  8:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01  9:31   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 10:21     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:03       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:14         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:19       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 13:19         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 13:26         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:26           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:55           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03  9:55             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:06             ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-10-03 10:06               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 10:11               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:11                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:57             ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-03 10:57               ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-03 13:19               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 13:19                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 13:27                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 13:27                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2012-10-04 10:48                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 10:48                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 12:10                   ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 12:10                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 12:27                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 12:27                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 17:21                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 17:21                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 17:24                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 17:24                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:31         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:31           ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:36           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:36             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:44             ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-01 13:44               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2012-10-01 13:48               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:48                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 13:38           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 13:46           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:46             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:04           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 14:04             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 14:34             ` [PATCH] kvm: Set default accelerator to "kvm" if the host supports it Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:34               ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 16:20               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 16:20                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 16:56                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-01 16:56                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  9:02                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:02                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 20:01                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-03 20:01                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-10-03 20:26                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-03 20:26                     ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-05  1:15                     ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  1:15                       ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  2:17                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-05  2:17                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-05  2:24                         ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  2:24                           ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  8:15                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-05  8:15                             ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-08 14:03                           ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-08 14:03                             ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-08 14:08                             ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-08 14:08                               ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 16:43               ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-01 16:43                 ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-01 16:47                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-01 16:47                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-01 19:03                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 19:03                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 19:25                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 19:25                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 20:07                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 20:07                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-02  7:46                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-02  7:46                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2012-10-02  8:15                     ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-02  8:15                       ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  6:58                     ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-03  6:58                       ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-03  9:05                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:05                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:07         ` qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 14:07           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 14:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 14:20             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 15:39         ` Bruce Rogers
2012-10-01 15:39           ` Bruce Rogers
2012-10-02  8:14         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-02  8:14           ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange

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