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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Cole Robinson" <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	"Scott Moser" <smoser@ubuntu.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Michael Tokarev" <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Subject: Re: qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:19:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zk468h3y.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50696E9E.7030302@siemens.com>

Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> writes:

> On 2012-10-01 11:31, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>
> It's not just about default configs. We need to validate if the
> migration formats are truly compatible (qemu-kvm -> QEMU, the other way
> around definitely not). For the command line switches, we could provide
> a wrapper script that translates them into upstream format or simply
> ignores them. That should be harmless to carry upstream.

qemu-kvm has:

 -no-kvm
 -no-kvm-irqchip
 -no-kvm-pit
 -no-kvm-pit-reinjection
 -tdf <- does nothing

There are replacements for all of the above.  If we need to add them to
qemu.git, it's not big deal to add them.

 -drive ...,boot= <- this is ignored

cpu_set command for CPU hotplug which is known broken in qemu-kvm.

testdev which is nice but only used for development

Default nic is rtl8139 vs. e1000.

Some logic to move change the default VGA ram size to 16mb for pc-1.2
(QEMU uses 16mb by default now too).

I think at this point, none of this matters but I added the various
distro maintainers to the thread.

I think it's time for the distros to drop qemu-kvm and just ship
qemu.git.  Is there anything else that needs to happen to make that
switch?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> But I would really stop worrying about the qemu-kvm code base.
>
> Jan
>
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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Scott Moser" <smoser@ubuntu.com>,
	"Michael Tokarev" <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Cole Robinson" <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:19:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zk468h3y.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50696E9E.7030302@siemens.com>

Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> writes:

> On 2012-10-01 11:31, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>
> It's not just about default configs. We need to validate if the
> migration formats are truly compatible (qemu-kvm -> QEMU, the other way
> around definitely not). For the command line switches, we could provide
> a wrapper script that translates them into upstream format or simply
> ignores them. That should be harmless to carry upstream.

qemu-kvm has:

 -no-kvm
 -no-kvm-irqchip
 -no-kvm-pit
 -no-kvm-pit-reinjection
 -tdf <- does nothing

There are replacements for all of the above.  If we need to add them to
qemu.git, it's not big deal to add them.

 -drive ...,boot= <- this is ignored

cpu_set command for CPU hotplug which is known broken in qemu-kvm.

testdev which is nice but only used for development

Default nic is rtl8139 vs. e1000.

Some logic to move change the default VGA ram size to 16mb for pc-1.2
(QEMU uses 16mb by default now too).

I think at this point, none of this matters but I added the various
distro maintainers to the thread.

I think it's time for the distros to drop qemu-kvm and just ship
qemu.git.  Is there anything else that needs to happen to make that
switch?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> But I would really stop worrying about the qemu-kvm code base.
>
> Jan
>
> -- 
> Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RTC ITP SDP-DE
> Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-01 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-30 19:11 qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01  1:02 ` Amos Kong
2012-10-01  8:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01  9:31   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 10:21     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:03       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:14         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:19       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-10-01 13:19         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 13:26         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:26           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:55           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03  9:55             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:06             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 10:06               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 10:11               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:11                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:57             ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-03 10:57               ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-03 13:19               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 13:19                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 13:27                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 13:27                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2012-10-04 10:48                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 10:48                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 12:10                   ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 12:10                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 12:27                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 12:27                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 17:21                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 17:21                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 17:24                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 17:24                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:31         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:31           ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:36           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:36             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:44             ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-01 13:44               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2012-10-01 13:48               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:48                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 13:38           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 13:46           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:46             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:04           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 14:04             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 14:34             ` [PATCH] kvm: Set default accelerator to "kvm" if the host supports it Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:34               ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 16:20               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 16:20                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 16:56                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-01 16:56                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  9:02                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:02                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 20:01                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-03 20:01                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-10-03 20:26                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-03 20:26                     ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-05  1:15                     ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  1:15                       ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  2:17                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-05  2:17                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-05  2:24                         ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  2:24                           ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  8:15                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-05  8:15                             ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-08 14:03                           ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-08 14:03                             ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-08 14:08                             ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-08 14:08                               ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 16:43               ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-01 16:43                 ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-01 16:47                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-01 16:47                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-01 19:03                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 19:03                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 19:25                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 19:25                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 20:07                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 20:07                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-02  7:46                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-02  7:46                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2012-10-02  8:15                     ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-02  8:15                       ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  6:58                     ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-03  6:58                       ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-03  9:05                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:05                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:07         ` qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 14:07           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 14:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 14:20             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 15:39         ` Bruce Rogers
2012-10-01 15:39           ` Bruce Rogers
2012-10-02  8:14         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-02  8:14           ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange

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