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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Scott Moser" <smoser@ubuntu.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Michael Tokarev" <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, "Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Cole Robinson" <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Set default accelerator to "kvm" if the host supports it
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:26:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA8red0vEQpbV2onWNcdO+rhL1PJD5O0aBrDeG2Mb7ULpw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAu8pHuaGAsb22_rCBK0WCh+osWGBojmMtf16kDvbvk2B0f1XA@mail.gmail.com>

On 3 October 2012 21:01, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>> Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> writes:
>>> +        /* The default accelerator depends on the availability of KVM. */
>>> +        p = kvm_configured ? "kvm" : "tcg";
>>>      }

>> Blue/Aurelien, any objections?
>
> No, maybe a message could be printed that says that the default has
> changed, for a few releases.

I've lost track of the conversation, are we currently proposing
the accelerator default to be "kvm" (as per the original patch
you quote here) or "kvm:tcg" ?

I'm not entirely sure which I prefer from an ARM perspective
For some time to come and for a lot of targets (ie any target
CPU except A15), having a default of "kvm" is going to cause
existing working commandlines to stop working. [I expect that
ARM-host qemu binaries will be built with CONFIG_KVM once ARM
KVM support lands, but the same binary will be run on hosts
without virtualization extensions.] On the other hand, perhaps
there just aren't really very many people who run QEMU on
ARM hosts, and so we can ignore them :-)

-- PMM

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Scott Moser" <smoser@ubuntu.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Michael Tokarev" <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, "Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Cole Robinson" <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Set default accelerator to "kvm" if the host supports it
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:26:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA8red0vEQpbV2onWNcdO+rhL1PJD5O0aBrDeG2Mb7ULpw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAu8pHuaGAsb22_rCBK0WCh+osWGBojmMtf16kDvbvk2B0f1XA@mail.gmail.com>

On 3 October 2012 21:01, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>> Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> writes:
>>> +        /* The default accelerator depends on the availability of KVM. */
>>> +        p = kvm_configured ? "kvm" : "tcg";
>>>      }

>> Blue/Aurelien, any objections?
>
> No, maybe a message could be printed that says that the default has
> changed, for a few releases.

I've lost track of the conversation, are we currently proposing
the accelerator default to be "kvm" (as per the original patch
you quote here) or "kvm:tcg" ?

I'm not entirely sure which I prefer from an ARM perspective
For some time to come and for a lot of targets (ie any target
CPU except A15), having a default of "kvm" is going to cause
existing working commandlines to stop working. [I expect that
ARM-host qemu binaries will be built with CONFIG_KVM once ARM
KVM support lands, but the same binary will be run on hosts
without virtualization extensions.] On the other hand, perhaps
there just aren't really very many people who run QEMU on
ARM hosts, and so we can ignore them :-)

-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-03 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-30 19:11 qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01  1:02 ` Amos Kong
2012-10-01  8:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01  9:31   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 10:21     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:03       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:14         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:19       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 13:19         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 13:26         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:26           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:55           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03  9:55             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:06             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 10:06               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 10:11               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:11                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 10:57             ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-03 10:57               ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-03 13:19               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 13:19                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 13:27                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-03 13:27                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2012-10-04 10:48                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 10:48                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 12:10                   ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 12:10                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 12:27                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 12:27                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 17:21                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 17:21                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-10-04 17:24                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-04 17:24                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:31         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:31           ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-01 13:36           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:36             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:44             ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-01 13:44               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2012-10-01 13:48               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:48                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 13:38           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 13:46           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 13:46             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:04           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 14:04             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 14:34             ` [PATCH] kvm: Set default accelerator to "kvm" if the host supports it Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:34               ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 16:20               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 16:20                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 16:56                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-01 16:56                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  9:02                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:02                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03 20:01                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-03 20:01                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-10-03 20:26                   ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2012-10-03 20:26                     ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-05  1:15                     ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  1:15                       ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  2:17                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-05  2:17                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-05  2:24                         ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  2:24                           ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-05  8:15                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-05  8:15                             ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-08 14:03                           ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-08 14:03                             ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-08 14:08                             ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-08 14:08                               ` Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 16:43               ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-01 16:43                 ` Andreas Färber
2012-10-01 16:47                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-01 16:47                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-01 19:03                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 19:03                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 19:25                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 19:25                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 20:07                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-01 20:07                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-02  7:46                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-10-02  7:46                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2012-10-02  8:15                     ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-02  8:15                       ` Aurelien Jarno
2012-10-03  6:58                     ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-03  6:58                       ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-03  9:05                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-03  9:05                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-10-01 14:07         ` qemu-kvm: remove "boot=on|off" drive parameter compatibility Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 14:07           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2012-10-01 14:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 14:20             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-01 15:39         ` Bruce Rogers
2012-10-01 15:39           ` Bruce Rogers
2012-10-02  8:14         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-02  8:14           ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange

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