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From: "Lad, Prabhakar" <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>
To: Conor.Dooley@microchip.com
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Biju Das <biju.das.jz@bp.renesas.com>,
	"Lad, Prabhakar" <prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@bp.renesas.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] dt-bindings: riscv: Add DT binding documentation for Renesas RZ/Five SoC and SMARC EVK
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 16:32:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+V-a8vVOXeqUZL7fTVHrc1qnC==uLR+nHooz=1mg-K3BwW3mQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5292fbdd-9eae-2398-1260-cbef652f6af2@microchip.com>

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 2:29 PM <Conor.Dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
>
> On 27/07/2022 14:00, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe
> >
> > On 27/07/2022 14:56, Biju Das wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Then it is not the same SoC! Same means same, identical. CPU
> >>> architecture is one of the major differences, which means it is not the
> >>> same.
> >>
> >> Family SoC(R9A07G043) is at top level. Then it has different SoCId for taking care of
> >> differences for SoC based on ARMV8 and RISC-V which has separate compatible like
> >> r9a07g043u11 and r9a07g043f01?
> >
> > This does not answer the concern - it's not the same SoC. The most
> > generic compatible denotes the most common part. I would argue that
> > instruction set and architecture are the most important differences.
> > None of ARMv8 SoCs (SoCs, not CPU cores) have "arm,armv8" compatible and
> > you went even more - you combined two architectures in the most generic
> > compatibles.
>
> I would have to agree with this. The most "core" part of the SoC is
> its architecture and while the peripheral IPs might be the same etc
> & the Renesas marketing team might have put them in the same "family",
> for the purposes of a device tree I don't see how having a common
> fallback makes sense.
>
Agreed, I was following the same which we have done on the ARM64 schema.

I am waiting on Geert's feedback on whether we should follow as
Krzysztof suggested ie to have

renesas,smarc-evk-r9a07g043f01 - for the board
renesas,9a07g043f01 - for the SoC

Cheers,
Prabhakar

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Lad, Prabhakar" <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>
To: Conor.Dooley@microchip.com
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Biju Das <biju.das.jz@bp.renesas.com>,
	 "Lad, Prabhakar" <prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@bp.renesas.com>,
	 Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	 Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	 Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	 Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>,
	 Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	 LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] dt-bindings: riscv: Add DT binding documentation for Renesas RZ/Five SoC and SMARC EVK
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 16:32:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+V-a8vVOXeqUZL7fTVHrc1qnC==uLR+nHooz=1mg-K3BwW3mQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5292fbdd-9eae-2398-1260-cbef652f6af2@microchip.com>

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 2:29 PM <Conor.Dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
>
> On 27/07/2022 14:00, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe
> >
> > On 27/07/2022 14:56, Biju Das wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Then it is not the same SoC! Same means same, identical. CPU
> >>> architecture is one of the major differences, which means it is not the
> >>> same.
> >>
> >> Family SoC(R9A07G043) is at top level. Then it has different SoCId for taking care of
> >> differences for SoC based on ARMV8 and RISC-V which has separate compatible like
> >> r9a07g043u11 and r9a07g043f01?
> >
> > This does not answer the concern - it's not the same SoC. The most
> > generic compatible denotes the most common part. I would argue that
> > instruction set and architecture are the most important differences.
> > None of ARMv8 SoCs (SoCs, not CPU cores) have "arm,armv8" compatible and
> > you went even more - you combined two architectures in the most generic
> > compatibles.
>
> I would have to agree with this. The most "core" part of the SoC is
> its architecture and while the peripheral IPs might be the same etc
> & the Renesas marketing team might have put them in the same "family",
> for the purposes of a device tree I don't see how having a common
> fallback makes sense.
>
Agreed, I was following the same which we have done on the ARM64 schema.

I am waiting on Geert's feedback on whether we should follow as
Krzysztof suggested ie to have

renesas,smarc-evk-r9a07g043f01 - for the board
renesas,9a07g043f01 - for the SoC

Cheers,
Prabhakar

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-27 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-26 18:06 [PATCH 0/6] Add support for Renesas RZ/Five SoC Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:06 ` Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:06 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: arm: renesas: Ignore the schema for RISC-V arch Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:06   ` Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:50   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  8:50     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  8:55     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:55       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:53   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  8:53     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  9:00     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  9:00       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  9:31       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  9:31         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  9:48         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  9:48           ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-08-11 15:26           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-11 15:26             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-11 23:37             ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-08-11 23:37               ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27 15:43   ` Rob Herring
2022-07-27 15:43     ` Rob Herring
2022-07-26 18:06 ` [PATCH 2/6] dt-bindings: riscv: Sort the CPU core list alphabetically Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:06   ` Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:51   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  8:51     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-26 18:06 ` [PATCH 3/6] dt-bindings: riscv: Add Andes AX45MP core to the list Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:06   ` Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:51   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  8:51     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-26 18:06 ` [PATCH 4/6] dt-bindings: riscv: Add DT binding documentation for Renesas RZ/Five SoC and SMARC EVK Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:06   ` Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:54   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  8:54     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  9:05     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  9:05       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  9:27       ` Biju Das
2022-07-27  9:27         ` Biju Das
2022-07-27  9:35         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  9:35           ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  9:54       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  9:54         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 10:06         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27 10:06           ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27 10:09           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 10:09             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 11:37             ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27 11:37               ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27 11:44               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 11:44                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 12:21                 ` Biju Das
2022-07-27 12:21                   ` Biju Das
2022-07-27 12:36                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 12:36                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 12:56                     ` Biju Das
2022-07-27 12:56                       ` Biju Das
2022-07-27 13:00                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 13:00                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 13:29                         ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-27 13:29                           ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-27 15:32                           ` Lad, Prabhakar [this message]
2022-07-27 15:32                             ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-08-11 15:42                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-11 15:42                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-12  6:23                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-12  6:23                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-12  9:49                         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-08-12  9:49                           ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-08-12 15:10                         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-08-12 15:10                           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-07-26 18:06 ` [PATCH 5/6] RISC-V: Kconfig.socs: Add Renesas RZ/Five SoC kconfig option Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:06   ` Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:49   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-26 18:49     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-27  8:19     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:19       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:06 ` [PATCH 6/6] riscv: dts: renesas: Add initial devicetree for Renesas RZ/Five SoC Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:06   ` Lad Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:25   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-26 18:25     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-26 18:53     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-26 18:53       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-27  8:09     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:09       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:21       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-27  8:21         ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-27  8:30         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:30           ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:55   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  8:55     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27  9:08     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  9:08       ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-26 18:51 ` [PATCH 0/6] Add support " Conor.Dooley
2022-07-26 18:51   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-07-27  8:00   ` Lad, Prabhakar
2022-07-27  8:00     ` Lad, Prabhakar

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