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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] SCSI bus failures with qemu-arm in kernel 3.8+
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:12:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA_KJwzefBH0St2vbGd9gaWsVL9jdrGRBJU9wx2-kuo1vA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1376383051.2737.20@driftwood>

On 13 August 2013 09:37, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
> Peter says he knows somebody who knows somebody who dug some instance of
> this hardware out of some landfill or something.

No, I personally myself had the hardware. Really.

> Me, I want to get something that works on new qemu _and_ last year's
> qemu, and that's what I got.

Note that in general hoping that current mainline kernel will
always work with ancient QEMU is a losing proposition -- it is
always possible that a kernel improvement will trigger a latent
model bug in QEMU. (To pick a random example, some while ago fixes
to how the kernel dealt with BGR and RGB pixel formats on the
versatile board broke QEMU because we weren't modelling it right;
that was just a QEMU bug for which the fix is "get a newer QEMU".)

The back-compat in the PCI code is so that the older kernels (2.6.x)
will continue to work, which is not quite the same thing.

-- PMM

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] SCSI bus failures with qemu-arm in kernel 3.8+
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:12:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA_KJwzefBH0St2vbGd9gaWsVL9jdrGRBJU9wx2-kuo1vA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1376383051.2737.20@driftwood>

On 13 August 2013 09:37, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
> Peter says he knows somebody who knows somebody who dug some instance of
> this hardware out of some landfill or something.

No, I personally myself had the hardware. Really.

> Me, I want to get something that works on new qemu _and_ last year's
> qemu, and that's what I got.

Note that in general hoping that current mainline kernel will
always work with ancient QEMU is a losing proposition -- it is
always possible that a kernel improvement will trigger a latent
model bug in QEMU. (To pick a random example, some while ago fixes
to how the kernel dealt with BGR and RGB pixel formats on the
versatile board broke QEMU because we weren't modelling it right;
that was just a QEMU bug for which the fix is "get a newer QEMU".)

The back-compat in the PCI code is so that the older kernels (2.6.x)
will continue to work, which is not quite the same thing.

-- PMM

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: peter.maydell@linaro.org (Peter Maydell)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] SCSI bus failures with qemu-arm in kernel 3.8+
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:12:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA_KJwzefBH0St2vbGd9gaWsVL9jdrGRBJU9wx2-kuo1vA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1376383051.2737.20@driftwood>

On 13 August 2013 09:37, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
> Peter says he knows somebody who knows somebody who dug some instance of
> this hardware out of some landfill or something.

No, I personally myself had the hardware. Really.

> Me, I want to get something that works on new qemu _and_ last year's
> qemu, and that's what I got.

Note that in general hoping that current mainline kernel will
always work with ancient QEMU is a losing proposition -- it is
always possible that a kernel improvement will trigger a latent
model bug in QEMU. (To pick a random example, some while ago fixes
to how the kernel dealt with BGR and RGB pixel formats on the
versatile board broke QEMU because we weren't modelling it right;
that was just a QEMU bug for which the fix is "get a newer QEMU".)

The back-compat in the PCI code is so that the older kernels (2.6.x)
will continue to work, which is not quite the same thing.

-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-13  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-11 15:54 SCSI bus failures with qemu-arm in kernel 3.8+ Guenter Roeck
2013-08-11 15:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-11 22:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-11 22:04   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12  0:40   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-12  0:40     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-12  0:40     ` [Qemu-devel] " Guenter Roeck
2013-08-12 16:24     ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 16:24       ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 16:24       ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 16:45       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 16:45         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 16:45         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 17:33         ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 17:33           ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 17:33           ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 20:06           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 20:06             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 20:06             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 20:49             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 20:49               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 20:49               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 21:21               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 21:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 21:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 21:36                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 21:36                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 21:36                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 22:12                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 22:12                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 22:12                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12 22:48                     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-12 22:48                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-12 22:48                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-12 23:04                     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-12 23:04                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-12 23:04                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-14 10:33                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-14 10:33                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-14 10:33                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-14 12:44                         ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-14 12:44                           ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-14 12:44                           ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-14 12:49                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-14 12:49                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-14 12:49                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-14 12:56                             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-14 12:56                               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-14 12:56                               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-14 14:41                           ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-14 14:41                             ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-14 14:41                             ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-14 15:26                             ` [Qemu-devel] memory reads and writes Herbei Dacian
2013-08-12 17:48         ` [Qemu-devel] SCSI bus failures with qemu-arm in kernel 3.8+ Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 17:48           ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 17:48           ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-13  8:37         ` Rob Landley
2013-08-13  8:37           ` Rob Landley
2013-08-13  8:37           ` Rob Landley
2013-08-13  9:12           ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2013-08-13  9:12             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-13  9:12             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-13 11:30           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-13 11:30             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-13 11:30             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-13  3:40       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-13  3:40         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-13  3:40         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 16:45         ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 16:45           ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 16:45           ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 17:54           ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 17:54             ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 17:54             ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 18:05             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 18:05               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 18:05               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 18:39               ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 18:39                 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 18:39                 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 20:50               ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 20:50                 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 20:50                 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 21:49                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 21:49                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 21:49                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 22:18                   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 22:18                     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 22:18                     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 22:23                     ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 22:23                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 22:23                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-15 23:25                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 23:25                         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-15 23:25                         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-19 15:26                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-19 15:26                         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-19 15:26                         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-12 19:02     ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-08-12 19:02       ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-08-12 19:02       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Gortmaker
2013-08-12 20:58       ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 20:58         ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 20:58         ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell

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