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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/20] e820, efi: add ACPI 6.0 persistent memory types
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:57:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4h3w2V6iNDbwddQzrV+jdT06m28O1_H6cj7y2B9i1gZTA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWq4NYqYomAVDZB6NBheLp-zA6yJXmcN244skYweAGaBg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c b/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c
>> index 11cc7d54ec3f..d38b53a7e9b2 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c
>> @@ -149,6 +149,7 @@ static void __init e820_print_type(u32 type)
>>         case E820_UNUSABLE:
>>                 printk(KERN_CONT "unusable");
>>                 break;
>> +       case E820_PMEM:
>>         case E820_PRAM:
>>                 printk(KERN_CONT "persistent (type %u)", type);
>>                 break;
>
> I'd kind of like to make it more clear what's going on here.  It
> doesn't help that the spec chose poor names.
>
> How about "NVDIMM physical aperture" for E820_PMEM and "legacy
> persistent RAM" for E820_PRAM?

The term "aperture" to me implies this BLK (mmio-windowed) mode of
accessing persistent media that the NFIT specification introduces.  In
fact, those ranges are mapped E820_RESERVED.  E820_PMEM really is a
memory range that happens to be persistent.

> Otherwise this looks generaly sensible, although I don't really
> understand why e820_type_to_string and e820_print_type are different.

 e820_type_to_string() appears in /proc/iomem and seems to afford
being more descriptive than e820_print_type() that just scrolls by in
dmesg, but I'm just guessing.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/20] e820, efi: add ACPI 6.0 persistent memory types
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:57:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4h3w2V6iNDbwddQzrV+jdT06m28O1_H6cj7y2B9i1gZTA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWq4NYqYomAVDZB6NBheLp-zA6yJXmcN244skYweAGaBg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c b/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c
>> index 11cc7d54ec3f..d38b53a7e9b2 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c
>> @@ -149,6 +149,7 @@ static void __init e820_print_type(u32 type)
>>         case E820_UNUSABLE:
>>                 printk(KERN_CONT "unusable");
>>                 break;
>> +       case E820_PMEM:
>>         case E820_PRAM:
>>                 printk(KERN_CONT "persistent (type %u)", type);
>>                 break;
>
> I'd kind of like to make it more clear what's going on here.  It
> doesn't help that the spec chose poor names.
>
> How about "NVDIMM physical aperture" for E820_PMEM and "legacy
> persistent RAM" for E820_PRAM?

The term "aperture" to me implies this BLK (mmio-windowed) mode of
accessing persistent media that the NFIT specification introduces.  In
fact, those ranges are mapped E820_RESERVED.  E820_PMEM really is a
memory range that happens to be persistent.

> Otherwise this looks generaly sensible, although I don't really
> understand why e820_type_to_string and e820_print_type are different.

 e820_type_to_string() appears in /proc/iomem and seems to afford
being more descriptive than e820_print_type() that just scrolls by in
dmesg, but I'm just guessing.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-28 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 179+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-28 18:24 [PATCH v2 00/20] libnd: non-volatile memory device support Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] e820, efi: add ACPI 6.0 persistent memory types Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 20:49   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:49     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:57     ` Dan Williams [this message]
2015-04-28 20:57       ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 21:05       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 21:05         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-15 15:43   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Jeff Moyer
2015-05-15 15:48     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-18 19:28       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] libnd, nd_acpi: initial libnd infrastructure and NFIT support Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-30 23:23   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-04-30 23:23     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-01  0:39     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01  0:39       ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01  1:21       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-01  1:21         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-01 16:23         ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 16:23           ` Dan Williams
2015-05-04 23:58           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-04 23:58             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-04 23:46             ` Dan Williams
2015-05-04 23:46               ` Dan Williams
2015-05-15 19:44   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Jeff Moyer
2015-05-15 20:41     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] nd_acpi, nfit-test: manufactured NFITs for interface development Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-15 20:25   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Jeff Moyer
2015-05-15 20:50     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] libnd: ndctl class device, and nd bus attributes Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-15 21:00   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Jeff Moyer
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] libnd, nd_acpi: dimm/memory-devices Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 17:48   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 17:48     ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 18:22     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 18:22       ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 18:19       ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 18:19         ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 18:43         ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 18:43           ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 19:15           ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 19:15             ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 19:38             ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 19:38               ` Dan Williams
2015-05-01 20:08               ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-01 20:08                 ` Toshi Kani
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] libnd: ndctl.h, the nd ioctl abi Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] libnd, nd_dimm: dimm driver and base libnd device-driver infrastructure Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-20 16:59   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-20 16:59     ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-20 17:02     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-20 17:02       ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] libnd, nd_acpi: regions (block-data-window, persistent memory, volatile memory) Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:24   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 15:53   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-29 15:53     ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-29 15:59     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 15:59       ` Dan Williams
2015-05-04 20:26   ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-04 20:26     ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-09 23:55     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-09 23:55       ` Dan Williams
2015-05-28 18:36       ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-28 18:36         ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-28 19:59         ` Dan Williams
2015-05-28 19:59           ` Dan Williams
2015-05-28 20:51           ` Linda Knippers
2015-05-28 20:51             ` Linda Knippers
2015-05-28 20:58             ` Dan Williams
2015-05-28 20:58               ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] libnd: support for legacy (non-aliasing) nvdimms Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] pmem: use ida Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 18:25   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Toshi Kani
2015-04-29 18:25     ` Toshi Kani
2015-04-29 18:59     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 18:59       ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 18:53       ` Toshi Kani
2015-04-29 18:53         ` Toshi Kani
2015-04-29 20:49         ` Linda Knippers
2015-04-29 20:49           ` Linda Knippers
2015-04-29 21:36           ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 21:36             ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] libnd, nd_pmem: add libnd support to the pmem driver Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 21:04   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 21:04     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 22:21     ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Phil Pokorny
2015-04-28 22:21       ` Phil Pokorny
2015-04-28 22:58       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 22:58         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29  0:17         ` Phil Pokorny
2015-04-29  0:17           ` Phil Pokorny
2015-04-29  0:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29  0:28             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 15:55         ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 15:55           ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 18:36           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 18:36             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] libnd, nd_acpi: add interleave-set state-tracking infrastructure Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] libnd: namespace indices: read and validate Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] libnd: pmem label sets and namespace instantiation Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] libnd: blk labels " Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] libnd: write pmem label set Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] libnd: write blk " Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] libnd: infrastructure for btt devices Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-12 16:33   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Toshi Kani
2015-05-12 16:33     ` Toshi Kani
2015-05-15  0:41     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-15  0:41       ` Dan Williams
2015-05-15  4:25       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-15  4:25         ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-28 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] nd_btt: atomic sector updates Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:25   ` Dan Williams
2015-05-17  1:19   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-17  1:19     ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-17  3:22     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-17  3:22       ` Dan Williams
2015-05-20 17:20       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-20 17:20         ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-18 22:38     ` Verma, Vishal L
2015-05-18 22:38       ` Verma, Vishal L
2015-04-28 18:26 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] libnd, nd_acpi, nd_blk: driver for BLK-mode access persistent memory Dan Williams
2015-04-28 18:26   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 21:10   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 21:10     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 22:30     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 22:30       ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 23:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 23:06         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 17:10         ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 17:10           ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29 19:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 19:28             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 00/20] libnd: non-volatile memory device support Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:52   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:59   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 20:59     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 21:06     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 21:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 22:28       ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 22:28         ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 23:05         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 23:05           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-30 20:56           ` Ross Zwisler
2015-04-30 20:56             ` Ross Zwisler
2015-04-28 21:24 ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-28 21:24   ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-28 22:15   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-28 22:15     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-07  7:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-05-07  7:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-04-29  0:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-04-29  0:25   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-04-29  1:22   ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29  1:22     ` Dan Williams
2015-04-29  1:22     ` Dan Williams
2015-05-05  0:06     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-05  0:06       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-05  0:06       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-08  6:31       ` Williams, Dan J
2015-05-08  6:31         ` Williams, Dan J
2015-05-08  6:31         ` Williams, Dan J

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