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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mishi Choudhary <mishi@linux.com>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:33:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4e4a2d9d63112a854fd30df19fd16f20face810.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y3ar80ac.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 08:20 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 20 2018, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > As everyone knows by now, we added a new Code of Conduct to the kernel
> > tree a few weeks ago.
> 
> I wanted to stay detached from all this, but as remaining (publicly)
> silent might be seen (publicly) as acquiescing, I hereby declare that:
>    I reject, as illegitimate, this Code and the process by
>    which it is being "developed".
[]
> I call on any other community members who reject this process to say so,
> not to remain silent.

The concept of describing a desire for pleasant interactions
while
developing the linux kernel is legitimate and useful.

I do reject this process as well and I think the attempt to
reform it via a private, non-public method is, at best,
poor form.

Joe Perches

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	Mishi Choudhary <mishi@linux.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:33:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4e4a2d9d63112a854fd30df19fd16f20face810.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y3ar80ac.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 08:20 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 20 2018, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > As everyone knows by now, we added a new Code of Conduct to the kernel
> > tree a few weeks ago.
> 
> I wanted to stay detached from all this, but as remaining (publicly)
> silent might be seen (publicly) as acquiescing, I hereby declare that:
>    I reject, as illegitimate, this Code and the process by
>    which it is being "developed".
[]
> I call on any other community members who reject this process to say so,
> not to remain silent.

The concept of describing a desire for pleasant interactions
while
developing the linux kernel is legitimate and useful.

I do reject this process as well and I think the attempt to
reform it via a private, non-public method is, at best,
poor form.

Joe Perches


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-21 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 177+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-20 13:49 [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:49 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/7] Code of conduct: Fix wording around maintainers enforcing the code of conduct Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:49   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/7] Code of Conduct Interpretation: Add document explaining how the Code of Conduct is to be interpreted Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 3/7] Code of Conduct Interpretation: Properly reference the TAB correctly Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 4/7] Code of Conduct: Provide links between the two documents Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 5/7] Code of Conduct Interpretation: Put in the proper URL for the committee Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 19:01   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-20 19:01     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-21  7:18     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Greg KH
2018-10-21  7:18       ` Greg KH
2018-10-20 13:51 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:51   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 18:28   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Alan Cox
2018-10-20 18:28     ` Alan Cox
2018-10-20 18:45     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Trond Myklebust
2018-10-20 18:45       ` Trond Myklebust
2018-10-20 19:14       ` jonsmirl
2018-10-20 19:14         ` jonsmirl
2018-10-21  8:27         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-21  8:27           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-21  9:23           ` Greg KH
2018-10-21  9:23             ` Greg KH
2018-10-20 19:24     ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-20 19:24       ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-20 20:07       ` Trond Myklebust
2018-10-20 20:07         ` Trond Myklebust
2018-10-21  0:13       ` Alan Cox
2018-10-21  0:13         ` Alan Cox
2018-10-21  6:19         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-21  6:19           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-20 20:13     ` James Bottomley
2018-10-20 20:13       ` James Bottomley
2018-10-20 13:51 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 7/7] MAINTAINERS: Add an entry for the code of conduct Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:51   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-21 21:20 ` [Ksummit-discuss] Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document NeilBrown
2018-10-21 21:20   ` NeilBrown
2018-10-21 22:26   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Josh Triplett
2018-10-21 22:26     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-21 23:37     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-21 23:37       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23  1:44       ` NeilBrown
2018-10-22 20:26     ` NeilBrown
2018-10-22 20:26       ` NeilBrown
2018-10-22 22:46       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-22 22:46         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23  1:31         ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23  1:31           ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23  6:26         ` Dan Carpenter
2018-10-23  6:40           ` Al Viro
2018-10-23  6:40             ` Al Viro
2018-10-23  6:46             ` Dan Carpenter
2018-10-23  6:46               ` Dan Carpenter
2018-10-23  3:31       ` Al Viro
2018-10-23  3:31         ` Al Viro
2018-10-23  4:25         ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23  4:25           ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23  4:52           ` Al Viro
2018-10-23  4:52             ` Al Viro
2018-10-23  5:28             ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23  5:28               ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23  6:00               ` Al Viro
2018-10-23  6:00                 ` Al Viro
2018-10-23 20:45                 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23 20:45                   ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23  8:11           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23  8:11             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23 14:22             ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-23 14:22               ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-23 15:43               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23 15:43                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23 17:51                 ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-23 21:14             ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23 21:14               ` NeilBrown
2018-10-24 12:16       ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-24 12:16         ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-25 21:14         ` NeilBrown
2018-10-25 21:14           ` NeilBrown
2018-10-27  1:10           ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-27  1:10             ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-28 21:48             ` NeilBrown
2018-10-28 21:48               ` NeilBrown
2018-11-01 16:45             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-01 16:45               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-01 21:11               ` Josh Triplett
2018-11-01 21:11                 ` Josh Triplett
2018-11-02 13:13                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-02 13:13                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-01 21:50               ` NeilBrown
2018-11-02 13:33                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-02 13:33                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-03  8:36                   ` NeilBrown
2018-11-03  8:36                     ` NeilBrown
2018-11-03 17:37                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-03 17:37                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-03 21:06                       ` NeilBrown
2018-11-03 21:06                         ` NeilBrown
2018-11-03 22:23                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-03 22:23                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-02 13:52                 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-03  9:19                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-11-04 10:35         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-04 10:35           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-21 22:33   ` Joe Perches [this message]
2018-10-21 22:33     ` Joe Perches
2018-10-21 22:37     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-10-21 22:37       ` Randy Dunlap
2018-10-22  9:09   ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-22  9:09     ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-22 11:02   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " James Bottomley
2018-10-22 11:02     ` James Bottomley
2018-10-24  8:49   ` Laura Abbott
2018-10-24  8:49     ` Laura Abbott
2018-10-25  7:56     ` The linux devs can rescind their license grant visionsofalice
2018-10-25  8:19       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-25  8:19         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-25 19:39         ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-25 20:47           ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-25 20:47             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-25 21:41             ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-25 22:12               ` [Ksummit-discuss] " NeilBrown
2018-10-25 22:12                 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-25 22:38                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-25 22:52                   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " NeilBrown
2018-10-25 22:52                     ` NeilBrown
2018-11-04 10:47                 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-04 10:47                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-25 23:06               ` Al Viro
2018-10-25 23:06                 ` Al Viro
2018-10-26  2:28                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-26  5:49                   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Al Viro
2018-10-26  5:49                     ` Al Viro
2018-10-27  6:52                 ` visionsofalice
2018-10-27  7:32                   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Al Viro
2018-10-27  7:32                     ` Al Viro
2018-10-27 16:18                     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tim.Bird
2018-10-27 16:18                       ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-27 22:09                       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-10-27 22:09                         ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]                         ` <CAK2MWOtNUTjWy5pTcGco5DNurqNCc=9CfDJ-Ko-K+6HDC55ikg@mail.gmail.com>
2018-10-27 23:07                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-27 23:40                           ` Al Viro
2018-10-27 23:40                             ` Al Viro
2018-10-28 21:13                         ` NeilBrown
2018-10-28 21:13                           ` NeilBrown
2018-10-25 23:32             ` Iván Chavero
2018-10-26 13:15           ` Eben Moglen
2018-10-26 15:50             ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-26 15:53               ` Eben Moglen
2018-10-26 17:32             ` visionsofalice
2018-10-26 18:31               ` Eben Moglen
2018-10-27  7:12                 ` visionsofalice
2018-12-18 18:53                 ` The linux devs can rescind their license grant. - Analysis published? visionsofalice
2018-10-26 10:34         ` The linux devs can rescind their license grant visionsofalice
2018-10-29 22:31         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Bradley M. Kuhn
2018-10-29 22:31           ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2018-12-18 19:17           ` visionsofalice
2018-10-27  5:04       ` The linux devs can rescind their license grant. - Additional restrictive terms visionsofalice
2018-12-18 20:55       ` The CoC regime is a License violation " visionsofalice
2018-12-19  1:17       ` visionsofalice
2018-12-23 16:05       ` visionsofalice
2018-10-25 22:02     ` [Ksummit-discuss] Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document NeilBrown
2018-10-25 22:02       ` NeilBrown
2018-10-25  8:06   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Machek
2018-10-25  8:06     ` Pavel Machek
2018-10-25 11:20   ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-25 22:18     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " NeilBrown
2018-10-25 22:18       ` NeilBrown
2018-10-26  8:33       ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-26 22:40         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " NeilBrown
2018-10-26 22:40           ` NeilBrown
2018-10-27 11:49           ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-21 23:36 ` Eric S. Raymond

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