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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC 0/2] RISC-V: A proposal to add vendor-specific code
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 09:52:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a2c98VVPArCkdAR=-nnDBq1gYRCLDDgQB71eGiTSRdb4A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181105070551.GA7274@infradead.org>

On 11/5/18, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 02:58:07PM +0800, Vincent Chen wrote:
>> Many thanks for kinds of comments. I quickly synthesize the comments and
>> list them as below.
>> 1. The kernel image shall include all vendor-specific code.
>
> I fundamentally disagree with this? and think it should be the contrary.
>
> 1. The kernel shall support no vendor specific instructions whatsoever,
> period.

I think what was meant above is

1. If a vendor extension requires kernel support, that support
must be able to be built into a kernel image without breaking support
for CPUs that do not have that extension, to allow building a single
kernel image that works on all CPUs.

       Arnd

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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: zong@andestech.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, alankao@andestech.com,
	greentime@andestech.com, palmer@sifive.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Chen <vincentc@andestech.com>,
	kito@andestech.com, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	deanbo422@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] RISC-V: A proposal to add vendor-specific code
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 09:52:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a2c98VVPArCkdAR=-nnDBq1gYRCLDDgQB71eGiTSRdb4A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181105085252.lsAsmmozX24le0YLVFdeJzrVYeNuvH_f6q0eu9AgsiA@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181105070551.GA7274@infradead.org>

On 11/5/18, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 02:58:07PM +0800, Vincent Chen wrote:
>> Many thanks for kinds of comments. I quickly synthesize the comments and
>> list them as below.
>> 1. The kernel image shall include all vendor-specific code.
>
> I fundamentally disagree with this… and think it should be the contrary.
>
> 1. The kernel shall support no vendor specific instructions whatsoever,
> period.

I think what was meant above is

1. If a vendor extension requires kernel support, that support
must be able to be built into a kernel image without breaking support
for CPUs that do not have that extension, to allow building a single
kernel image that works on all CPUs.

       Arnd

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-05  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-31 10:35 [RFC 0/2] RISC-V: A proposal to add vendor-specific code Vincent Chen
2018-10-31 10:35 ` Vincent Chen
2018-10-31 10:35 ` [RFC 1/2] RISC-V: An infrastructure " Vincent Chen
2018-10-31 10:35   ` Vincent Chen
2018-10-31 10:35 ` [RFC 2/2] RISC-V: make dma_map_ops work without cache coherent agent Vincent Chen
2018-10-31 10:35   ` Vincent Chen
2018-10-31 11:16 ` [RFC 0/2] RISC-V: A proposal to add vendor-specific code Anup Patel
2018-10-31 11:16   ` Anup Patel
2018-10-31 11:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-10-31 11:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-10-31 14:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-31 14:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-01  0:55     ` Alan Kao
2018-11-01  0:55       ` Alan Kao
2018-11-01 17:50       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-01 17:50         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-02  0:41         ` Alan Kao
2018-11-02  0:41           ` Alan Kao
2018-10-31 17:27   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-10-31 17:27     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-10-31 19:17     ` Olof Johansson
2018-10-31 19:17       ` Olof Johansson
2018-11-01 17:48     ` Karsten Merker
2018-11-05  6:58       ` Vincent Chen
2018-11-05  6:58         ` Vincent Chen
2018-11-05  7:05         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-05  7:05           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-05  8:52           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2018-11-05  8:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-05  9:08             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-05  9:08               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-05 13:51               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-05 13:51                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-06  6:59                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-06  6:59                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-06 23:45             ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-06 23:45               ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-07  9:51               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-07  9:51                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-06 23:45         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-06 23:45           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-08  2:43           ` Vincent Chen
2018-11-08  2:43             ` Vincent Chen
2018-11-05 19:39 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-05 19:39   ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-06  6:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-06  6:56     ` Christoph Hellwig

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