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From: "Jakob Østergaard" <jakob@unthought.net>
To: "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>
Cc: Alex Bligh - linux-kernel <linux-kernel@alex.org.uk>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	John Levon <moz@compsoc.man.ac.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
	Tim Jansen <tim@tjansen.de>
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: dot-proc interface [was: /proc stuff]
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:20:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011104222009.Y14001@unthought.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011104204502.O14001@unthought.net> <200111042112.fA4LCNR241720@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
In-Reply-To: <200111042112.fA4LCNR241720@saturn.cs.uml.edu>; from acahalan@cs.uml.edu on Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 04:12:23PM -0500

On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 04:12:23PM -0500, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jak writes:
> 
> > Please tell me,  is "1610612736" a 32-bit integer, a 64-bit integer, is
> > it signed or unsigned   ?
> > 
> > I could even live with parsing ASCII, as long as there'd just be type
> > information to go with the values.
> 
> You are looking for something called the registry. It's something
> that was introduced with Windows 95. It's basically a filesystem
> with typed files: char, int, string, string array, etc.

Nope   :)

It does not have "char, int, string, string array, etc." it has "String, binary
and DWORD".

Having read out 64 bit values, floating point data etc. from the registry, I'm
old enough to know that it is *NOT* what I'm looking for   :)

...
> Funny you should mention that one. I wrote the code used by procps
> to read this file. I love that file! The parentheses issue is just
> a beauty wart. People rarely feel the urge to screw with raw numbers.
> In all the other files, idiots like to: add headers, change the
> spelling of field names, change the order, add spaces and random
> punctuation, etc. Nothing is as stable and easy to use as the
> /proc/self/stat file.

Imagine every field in a file by itself, with well-defined type
information and unit informaiton.

...
> Linus clearly doesn't give a fuck about /proc performance.
> That's his right, and you are welcome to patch your kernel to
> have something better: http://lwn.net/2000/0420/a/atomicps.html

Performance is one thing.  Not being able to know whether numbers are i32, u32,
u64, or measured in Kilobytes or carrots is another ting.

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-04 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 258+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-01 10:32 [PATCH] 2.5 PROPOSAL: Replacement for current /proc of shit Rusty Russell
2001-11-01 10:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-11-01 16:49   ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-01 17:06   ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-11-01 12:06 ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-01 18:34   ` James Simmons
2001-11-02  1:42 ` Rusty Russell
2001-11-02  1:56   ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-02 11:44     ` Padraig Brady
2001-11-02  9:11   ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-02 12:39     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-02 11:57       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-02 13:55       ` Keith Owens
2001-11-02 15:08         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-04  5:36       ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-02 12:46     ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-11-02  2:20 ` Rusty Russell
2001-11-02 13:59   ` Tim Jansen
     [not found]     ` <20011103103106.7eb6098b.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2001-11-03 11:47       ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-03 23:44       ` Rusty Russell
2001-11-04  1:40   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04  2:08     ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 12:30       ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 13:36         ` Daniel Kobras
2001-11-04 14:13           ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 15:33             ` PROPOSAL: dot-proc interface [was: /proc stuff] Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 16:05               ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-11-04 16:31               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04 17:30                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 16:45               ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 17:28                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04 17:41                   ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 17:54                     ` SpaceWalker
2001-11-04 20:45                       ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-04 17:59                     ` John Levon
2001-11-04 18:31                       ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 18:40                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 19:04                           ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:24                             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-04 19:45                               ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:52                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 20:06                                   ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 22:01                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04 21:12                                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-04 21:20                                   ` Jakob Østergaard [this message]
2001-11-04 21:42                                     ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 22:13                                     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-05 11:23                                       ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-05 15:58                                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05 18:30                                           ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-05 23:00                                             ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-06 13:47                                               ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-06 17:13                                               ` Gerhard Mack
2001-11-05 16:38                                       ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-05 18:39                                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-05 18:28                                           ` Ben Greear
2001-11-05 18:40                                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-05 21:03                                               ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05 21:58                                                 ` Ben Greear
2001-11-05 22:51                                                   ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05 22:59                                                     ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-05 23:35                                                       ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05 23:41                                                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06 13:49                                                           ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-06 19:49                                                       ` dank
2001-11-06 22:22                                                         ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-06 22:47                                                           ` dank
2001-11-06 23:11                                                             ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-06 23:39                                                             ` Ricky Beam
2001-11-07 12:45                                                           ` Remco Post
2001-11-07  1:06                                                         ` George Greer
2001-11-05 19:58                                       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-11-05 21:43                                       ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-06  5:22                                         ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-11-04 21:22                                   ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-05  4:03                                 ` Stuart Young
2001-11-05  4:05                                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05  4:55                                   ` Stuart Young
2001-11-05 16:32                                     ` SpaceWalker
2001-11-06  6:46                                       ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:29                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 19:50                               ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 20:01                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 20:09                                   ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-06  7:23                                 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-06 14:00                                   ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 18:27                     ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 18:35                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 18:39                       ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-07  1:20                       ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-07 21:14                         ` Rik van Riel
2000-01-01  0:13                           ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-04 18:20                   ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 18:30                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 18:52                       ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:18                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04 21:41                       ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-05 11:06                       ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-05 10:28                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-05 22:46                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-06  0:54                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-06  1:11                             ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-04 18:46                     ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-04 19:20                     ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:32                       ` Dave Jones
2001-11-04 19:52                         ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 20:06                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 20:11                             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-11 10:06                           ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-11 19:43                             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-12 13:43                               ` Pascal Schmidt
2001-11-13 12:09                                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-13 14:41                               ` Riley Williams
2001-11-04 22:09                     ` Luigi Genoni
2001-11-04 17:48                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 18:02                   ` John Levon
2001-11-04 18:34                   ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 18:59                     ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:19                       ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 19:24                         ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:41                           ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 19:55                             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 20:13                               ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 20:11                                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 20:47                                   ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-04 21:02                                     ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 22:53                               ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-05 11:04               ` zmwillow
2001-11-05 13:41               ` Petr Baudis
2001-11-05 20:49                 ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05 22:01                   ` Ben Greear
     [not found]                   ` <20011105223413.U11619@pasky.ji.cz>
     [not found]                     ` <160rly-1tl3XUC@fmrl05.sul.t-online.com>
2001-11-05 22:07                       ` Petr Baudis
2001-11-06  7:25                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-06  8:21                   ` Petr Baudis
2001-11-06  8:34                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06 13:43                       ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-06 17:01                       ` Petr Baudis
2001-11-05 19:55               ` PROPOSAL: kernfs (was: Re: PROPOSAL: dot-proc interface [was: /proc st Kai Henningsen
2001-11-06 18:56               ` PROPOSAL: /proc standards (was dot-proc interface [was: /proc stuff]) Stephen Satchell
2001-11-06 19:38                 ` Ben Greear
2001-11-06 20:12                 ` PROPOSAL: /proc standards (was dot-proc interface [was: /proc Erik Hensema
2001-11-06 20:58                   ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2001-11-06 21:43                     ` Ricky Beam
2001-11-06 22:14                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-07  0:33                         ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-07  7:20                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-07  8:07                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-07 17:24                             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-07 17:22                               ` Blue Lang
2001-11-07 19:21                                 ` Ricky Beam
2001-11-11 10:27                                 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-08  0:47                               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-08 18:53                                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-08 21:28                                   ` Ricky Beam
2001-11-09  5:15                                   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-19 19:22                                   ` bill davidsen
2001-11-07  0:13                       ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-07  0:40                         ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-07  1:10                         ` Ricky Beam
     [not found]                           ` <Pine.GSO.4.33.0111061947540.17287-100000@sweetums.bluetronic.ne t>
2001-11-07  1:17                             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-07 11:32                           ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-07 12:35                       ` Remco Post
2001-11-07 23:53                         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-07 22:24                       ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2001-11-07 23:15                         ` Phil Howard
2001-11-06 21:24                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-06 21:45                     ` Erik Hensema
2001-11-06 22:06                     ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-06 22:28                     ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-06 22:33                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2001-11-06 22:42                         ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-06 22:49                           ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2001-11-06 22:53                           ` Patrick Mochel
2001-11-06 22:52                             ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-06 22:46                         ` Ben Greear
2001-11-06 22:50                           ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2001-11-07  0:17                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-06 22:53                   ` J . A . Magallon
2001-11-05 16:49     ` [PATCH] 2.5 PROPOSAL: Replacement for current /proc of shit Jonathan Lundell
2001-11-05 20:46       ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05 23:04         ` Greg KH
2001-11-05 22:19           ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05  0:12   ` Rusty Russell
2001-11-05  3:34     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-05 22:48       ` Rusty Russell
2001-11-06 10:25         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-06 15:46         ` Theodore Tso
2001-11-07 23:35         ` Rusty Russell
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111041141100.14150-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-11-04 19:53 ` PROPOSAL: dot-proc interface [was: /proc stuff] Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04 23:06 Craig Thrall
2001-11-04 23:39 ` Jakob Østergaard
     [not found] <20011104214229Z17052-23341+37@humbolt.nl.linux.org>
2001-11-04 23:42 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05  0:10   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-24 17:42 RFC: booleans and the kernel Jeff Garzik
2002-01-24 18:22 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-24 18:33   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-01-24 19:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-24 19:34   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-01-24 19:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-24 19:47       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-01-24 19:46     ` Ingo Oeser
2002-01-24 19:52 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-24 20:03   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-24 20:06     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-24 20:14       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-24 20:23       ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-24 20:25         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-24 20:35           ` John Levon
2002-01-24 20:15     ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-24 20:21   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-24 20:39     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-24 21:55       ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-24 21:57         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-24 22:05         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-24 22:13         ` Robert Love
2002-01-24 22:33       ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-24 22:53         ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-24 22:59         ` Robert Love
2002-01-24 23:27           ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-25  6:13             ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-25  8:00               ` Momchil Velikov
2002-01-25 10:51               ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-25 16:11               ` Olivier Galibert
2002-01-26  7:22               ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-25  7:48                 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-25 23:49                   ` J.A. Magallon
2002-01-27 11:27                 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-25 23:09           ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-25  1:16             ` John Levon
2002-01-25 22:47         ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-25 21:24       ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-24 21:31         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-24 22:19           ` Robert Love
2002-01-24 22:38             ` Robert Love
2002-01-25 22:44               ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-25  3:52                 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2002-01-25 20:39                   ` Calin A. Culianu
2002-01-25 23:07                   ` Rick Stevens
2002-01-25 19:02                 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-27  1:33                   ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-26  2:56                     ` Jamie Lokier
2002-01-27 11:18                   ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-25 22:30             ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-24 22:36               ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-25  6:36               ` Kai Henningsen
     [not found]                 ` <200201250900.g0P8xoL10082@home.ashavan.org.>
2002-01-29  6:36                   ` Nix N. Nix
2002-01-25 21:43           ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-24 21:50             ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-24 22:21               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-25 15:07                 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-01-25 15:21                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2002-01-25 16:45                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-25 11:07         ` Helge Hafting
2002-01-24 22:33 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-01-24 22:44   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-26 10:22     ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-01-25  2:00 ` Erik Andersen

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