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From: Craig Thrall <cthrall@raindance.com>
To: "'jakob@unthought.net'" <jakob@unthought.net>
Cc: "'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: dot-proc interface [was: /proc stuff]
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:06:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8E3BD6C91C42EC44AF5BEE87C73F9CBC0DB135@mail8-bld.lsv.raindance.com> (raw)

> Problem:  Could it be made simpler to parse from scripting languages,
> without making it less elegant to parse in plain C ?

Yes.  At one point, somebody suggested XML.  Now, as much as I hate the fact
that people somehow equate high-tech with tags, I think whomever originally
suggested it might be on to something.  :)

Fact is, just about EVERY language out there has some sort of utility to
parse XML.  There's expat for C, Perl and Python have libs, etc.  We could
even write a proc DTD that could specify the valid data types.

There are two problems:

1. Performance - it's slower to go through a library that outputs XML than
do a printf("%d", pid) or the like.

2. Space - based on a little experience using XML as a transport, the space
used by the tags adds up.

3. Work - writing a good package to do this, and rewriting bits of the
kernel to use it.  I'll volunteer my time.

Just a thought,

Craig

             reply	other threads:[~2001-11-04 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-04 23:06 Craig Thrall [this message]
2001-11-04 23:39 ` PROPOSAL: dot-proc interface [was: /proc stuff] Jakob Østergaard
     [not found] <20011104214229Z17052-23341+37@humbolt.nl.linux.org>
2001-11-04 23:42 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05  0:10   ` Daniel Phillips
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111041141100.14150-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-11-04 19:53 ` Daniel Phillips
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-01 10:32 [PATCH] 2.5 PROPOSAL: Replacement for current /proc of shit Rusty Russell
2001-11-04 12:30 ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 13:36   ` Daniel Kobras
2001-11-04 14:13     ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 15:33       ` PROPOSAL: dot-proc interface [was: /proc stuff] Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 16:05         ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-11-04 16:31         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04 17:30           ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 16:45         ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 17:28           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04 17:41             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 17:54               ` SpaceWalker
2001-11-04 20:45                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-04 17:59               ` John Levon
2001-11-04 18:31                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 18:40                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 19:04                     ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:24                       ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-04 19:45                         ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:52                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 20:06                             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 22:01                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04 21:12                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-04 21:20                             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 21:42                               ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 22:13                               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-05 11:23                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-05 15:58                                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05 18:30                                     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-05 23:00                                       ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-06 13:47                                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-06 17:13                                         ` Gerhard Mack
2001-11-05 16:38                                 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-05 18:39                                   ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-05 18:28                                     ` Ben Greear
2001-11-05 18:40                                       ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-05 21:03                                         ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05 21:58                                           ` Ben Greear
2001-11-05 22:51                                             ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05 22:59                                               ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-05 23:35                                                 ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05 23:41                                                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06 13:49                                                     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-06 19:49                                                 ` dank
2001-11-06 22:22                                                   ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-06 22:47                                                     ` dank
2001-11-06 23:11                                                       ` Erik Andersen
2001-11-06 23:39                                                       ` Ricky Beam
2001-11-07 12:45                                                     ` Remco Post
2001-11-07  1:06                                                   ` George Greer
2001-11-05 19:58                                 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-11-05 21:43                                 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-06  5:22                                   ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-11-04 21:22                             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-05  4:03                           ` Stuart Young
2001-11-05  4:05                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05  4:55                             ` Stuart Young
2001-11-05 16:32                               ` SpaceWalker
2001-11-06  6:46                                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:29                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 19:50                         ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 20:01                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 20:09                             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-06  7:23                           ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-06 14:00                             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 18:27               ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 18:35                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 18:39                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-07  1:20                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-07 21:14                   ` Rik van Riel
2000-01-01  0:13                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-04 18:20             ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 18:30               ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 18:52                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:18                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-04 21:41                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-05 11:06                 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-11-05 10:28                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-05 22:46                     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-06  0:54                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-06  1:11                       ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-04 18:46               ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:07             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-04 19:20               ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:32                 ` Dave Jones
2001-11-04 19:52                   ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 20:06                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-04 20:11                       ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-11 10:06                     ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-11 19:43                       ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-12 13:43                         ` Pascal Schmidt
2001-11-13 12:09                           ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-13 14:41                         ` Riley Williams
2001-11-04 22:09               ` Luigi Genoni
2001-11-04 17:48           ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 18:02             ` John Levon
2001-11-04 18:34             ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 18:59               ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:19                 ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 19:24                   ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 19:41                     ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 19:55                       ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 20:13                         ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-04 20:11                           ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 20:47                             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-04 21:02                               ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-04 22:53                         ` Stephen Satchell
2001-11-05 11:04         ` zmwillow
2001-11-05 13:41         ` Petr Baudis
2001-11-05 20:49           ` Tim Jansen
2001-11-05 22:01             ` Ben Greear
     [not found]             ` <20011105223413.U11619@pasky.ji.cz>
     [not found]               ` <160rly-1tl3XUC@fmrl05.sul.t-online.com>
2001-11-05 22:07                 ` Petr Baudis
2001-11-06  7:25           ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-06  8:21             ` Petr Baudis
2001-11-06  8:34               ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06 13:43                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-11-06 17:01                 ` Petr Baudis

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