Re: Old platforms: bring out your dead - Russell King

From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: Old platforms: bring out your dead
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 00:33:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210111003320.GQ1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdYaMASWWDTX7hTt+xQnVPA=WTWNFk2eDnTjKoJF=LA7LQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:33:56PM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 7:16 PM Fabian Vogt <fabian@ritter-vogt.de> wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 9. Januar 2021, 23:20:48 CET schrieb Arnd Bergmann:
> > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:06 AM Daniel Tang <dt.tangr@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > * nspire -- added in 2013, no notable changes after 2015
> >
> > Most of the platform is just the DT sources and some small drivers around it,
> > so it's actually fairly low maintenance. So far the migration away from
> > panel-simple in 2019
> > (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20190805085847.25554-1-linus.walleij@linaro.org)
> > was the biggest required change so far.
> 
> What we're seeing here is actually a port that is:
> - Finished
> - Has a complete set of working drivers
> - Supported
> - Just works
> 
> I.e. it doesn't see much patches because it is pretty much perfect.
> 
> We are so unused to this situation that it can be mistaken for
> the device being abandoned.
> 
> I think it was Russell who first pointed out that this is actually
> the case for a few machines.

Yes indeed. I find it utterly rediculous that there is a perception
that you constantly need to be patching a bit of software for it to
not be seen as abandoned. If a piece of software works and does what
it needs to do, why does it need to be continually patched? It makes
no sense to me.

I have my xf86-video-armada which I use on the Dove Cubox and iMX6
platforms. It does what I need it to, and I haven't updated the
userspace on these platforms for a while. Therefore, I've no reason
to patch that code, and no one has sent me patches. Does that mean
it's abandoned? Absolutely not.

Some people are just weird and think that unless stuff is constantly
worked on, no one cares about it.

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