From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>,
Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.21
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:33:39 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0704281529080.9964@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070428195320.GZ3468@stusta.de>
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
> We are already quite good at ignoring bug reports that come through
> linux-kernel, and it's an _advantage_ of the kernel Bugzilla to see more
> than 1600 open bugs because this tells how bad we are at handling bugs.
No, it just shows that bugzilla doesn't matter for most of the kernel.
Don't say that "bugzilla tells how bad we are at handling bugs". It tells
how bad *bugzilla* is for handling bugs, nothing more.
Trying to play politics by pointing to bugzilla is pointless. Bugzilla is
used for a few subsystems (ACPI seems to use it actively, for example),
but I doubt most developers use it.
Would be be good to have a better bug-tracking setup? Yes. But I think it
takes man-power, and it would take something *fundamentally* better than
bugzilla.
Maybe the new "http://kernelnewbies.org/known_regressions" thing will
evolve to something worth tracking. Right now, bugzilla isn't it (although
it can be a useful tracking place for individual bugs, *once* you've found
and gotten the right developer involved - but that's a huge step that
bugzilla generally does *not* do for us).
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-28 22:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 292+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-26 3:29 Linux 2.6.21 Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 4:08 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 4:38 ` Dave Jones
2007-04-26 5:02 ` Greg KH
2007-04-26 5:44 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-26 5:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-26 6:28 ` Jeff Chua
2007-04-26 6:46 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-04-26 8:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-04-26 12:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 8:42 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2007-04-26 9:20 ` Jens Axboe
2007-04-26 10:44 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-04-26 12:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 15:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 16:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 17:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 18:37 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-26 18:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 19:55 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-26 21:34 ` Mel Gorman
2007-04-26 19:11 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-27 17:14 ` Michael Tokarev
2007-04-27 19:35 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-28 20:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-26 20:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-27 14:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-27 16:31 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-27 19:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-27 20:23 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-28 12:51 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-04-27 21:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-26 17:02 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-26 18:13 ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-26 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 20:41 ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-26 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 9:33 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2007-04-28 19:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-04-28 22:11 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-28 22:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-28 22:42 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-28 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 0:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 3:03 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-29 0:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 3:28 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-28 19:53 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.0.98.0704281529080. 9964@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2007-04-28 20:27 ` Russell King
2007-04-28 21:43 ` irks with bugzilla (was Re: Linux 2.6.21) Stefan Richter
2007-04-28 22:49 ` Linux 2.6.21 Adrian Bunk
2007-04-28 23:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 13:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 16:34 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-29 16:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 17:37 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-14 6:29 ` regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21) Oleg Verych
2007-06-14 15:33 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-14 16:39 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-14 16:36 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-14 17:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-14 20:33 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-14 20:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-15 23:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-15 23:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-16 1:32 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-16 2:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-16 5:03 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-16 13:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-16 12:23 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-16 12:54 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-06-17 0:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-17 9:41 ` [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)) Michal Piotrowski
2007-06-17 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-17 10:22 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-06-17 11:47 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-17 12:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-17 14:24 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-17 14:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-17 17:44 ` david
2007-06-17 21:23 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-17 12:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-17 12:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-17 13:17 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-06-17 14:02 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-17 14:29 ` How to improve the quality of the kernel? Adrian Bunk
2007-06-17 16:15 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-06-17 16:26 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-17 16:47 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-06-17 18:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-17 18:44 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-17 18:50 ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-06-22 12:01 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-06-22 14:19 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-22 15:25 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-17 17:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-17 17:42 ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-06-17 18:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-17 19:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-17 18:53 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-17 18:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-17 19:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-17 19:33 ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-17 20:00 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-17 20:10 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-06-17 21:49 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-17 23:15 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-18 0:22 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-18 0:32 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-18 5:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-18 13:23 ` Fortier,Vincent [Montreal]
2007-06-18 22:31 ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-06-18 22:41 ` Martin Bligh
2007-06-18 22:56 ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-06-18 23:59 ` Martin Bligh
2007-06-19 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 0:24 ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-06-19 0:42 ` Martin Bligh
2007-06-19 0:55 ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-06-19 1:10 ` Martin Bligh
2007-06-19 4:06 ` This is [Re:] How to improve the quality of the kernel[?] Oleg Verych
2007-06-19 12:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-19 14:05 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-19 14:27 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-19 15:47 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-19 17:50 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-19 18:56 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-19 19:21 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-19 15:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-19 15:08 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-19 17:14 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-19 15:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 16:53 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-19 17:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 17:37 ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-06-19 17:51 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-21 23:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-21 23:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-22 0:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-21 23:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-19 13:30 ` Don Armstrong
2007-06-19 1:51 ` How to improve the quality of the kernel? Fortier,Vincent [Montreal]
2007-06-19 2:27 ` Natalie Protasevich
2007-06-19 11:06 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-17 23:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-18 1:04 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-17 18:54 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-06-19 0:28 ` regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21) Martin Bligh
2007-06-19 14:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-19 17:27 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-04-29 18:50 ` Linux 2.6.21 Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 18:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 19:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 20:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 20:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 22:00 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 20:52 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-29 22:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30 6:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-30 23:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 18:18 ` Bugzilla (was Linux 2.6.21) Martin J. Bligh
2007-04-30 5:43 ` Linux 2.6.21 Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 17:35 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 18:09 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 18:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 19:31 ` Russell King
2007-04-29 19:40 ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-29 19:51 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-04-30 1:50 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-30 4:54 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-30 5:06 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-29 20:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 20:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 21:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-30 7:45 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-04-30 18:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-30 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-30 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-30 18:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-30 19:25 ` Vegard Nossum
2007-04-29 22:36 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-04-29 23:18 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-04-29 23:41 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-04-30 0:05 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-04-30 7:54 ` Matthias Andree
2007-04-29 20:56 ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-29 21:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 21:16 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-04-29 21:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 21:26 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-04-29 21:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 22:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 22:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 22:37 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 22:48 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-04-29 23:09 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 22:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 22:57 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-04-29 21:51 ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-29 23:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 21:29 ` Francois Romieu
2007-05-02 19:59 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-29 20:01 ` David Miller
2007-04-29 21:26 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 21:41 ` David Miller
2007-04-29 22:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 20:38 ` Simon Arlott
2007-04-30 7:34 ` Matthias Andree
2007-04-29 23:55 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-30 0:13 ` Dave Jones
2007-04-30 1:14 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-04-30 1:31 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-30 5:02 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-04-30 7:59 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-04-30 16:51 ` David Lang
2007-04-29 7:34 ` Russell King
2007-04-28 22:33 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-04-28 22:58 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-04-28 23:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 0:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 21:27 ` Dave Jones
2007-04-29 21:27 ` David Lang
2007-04-29 22:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-29 0:20 ` Bob Tracy
2007-04-29 0:40 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-04-29 0:28 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-04-29 3:40 ` David Miller
2007-04-29 6:43 ` David Lang
2007-04-29 9:34 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-29 9:40 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-29 6:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 9:53 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-29 7:37 ` Russell King
2007-04-28 23:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-28 23:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 3:41 ` David Miller
2007-04-29 8:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-30 18:13 ` Borislav Petkov
2007-04-26 17:39 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-26 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 21:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-26 23:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-27 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-27 23:08 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-04-26 17:23 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-26 18:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-26 18:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 18:58 ` Francois Romieu
2007-04-26 19:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-26 19:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 19:43 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-26 19:43 ` Francois Romieu
2007-04-26 19:53 ` Stephen Clark
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[not found] ` <4630FE8D.6090900@garzik.org>
2007-04-26 19:48 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-27 15:22 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-26 19:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-26 19:14 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-26 19:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-26 21:02 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-26 21:02 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-27 21:36 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-26 6:30 ` Jan De Luyck
2007-04-26 8:23 ` Marat Buharov
2007-04-27 6:30 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-26 8:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-26 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-26 19:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-27 4:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-26 19:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-26 21:59 ` Mel Gorman
2007-04-26 7:52 linux
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2007-04-29 21:39 ` Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2007-04-29 21:04 Tomasz Chmielewski
2007-04-30 3:02 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-30 4:57 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-30 7:43 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-30 6:25 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2007-04-30 14:56 ` Gene Heskett
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2007-04-30 7:01 ` David Miller
2007-04-30 18:10 ` Adrian Bunk
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