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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Alexandre Chartre' <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
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Subject: RE: [RFC][PATCH v2 00/21] x86/pti: Defer CR3 switch to C code
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 09:30:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce8d862f498042d1bd7a6e8a071f06bf@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b63ec614-8a49-728d-aa61-76339378183f@oracle.com>

From: Alexandre Chartre
> Sent: 18 November 2020 07:42
> 
> 
> On 11/17/20 10:26 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 07:12:07PM +0100, Alexandre Chartre wrote:
> >> Some benchmarks are available, in particular from phoronix:
> >
> > What I was expecting was benchmarks *you* have run which show that
> > perf penalty, not something one can find quickly on the internet and
> > something one cannot always reproduce her-/himself.
> >
> > You do know that presenting convincing numbers with a patchset greatly
> > improves its chances of getting it upstreamed, right?
> >
> 
> Well, it looks like I wrongfully assume that KPTI was a well known performance
> overhead since it was introduced (because it adds extra page-table switches),
> but you are right I should be presenting my own numbers.

IIRC the penalty comes from the page table switch.
Doing it at a different time is unlikely to make much difference.

For some workloads the penalty is massive - getting on for 50%.
We are still using old kernels on AWS.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-18  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-16 14:47 [RFC][PATCH v2 00/21] x86/pti: Defer CR3 switch to C code Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 01/21] x86/syscall: Add wrapper for invoking syscall function Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 02/21] x86/entry: Update asm_call_on_stack to support more function arguments Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 03/21] x86/entry: Consolidate IST entry from userspace Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 04/21] x86/sev-es: Define a setup stack function for the VC idtentry Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 05/21] x86/entry: Implement ret_from_fork body with C code Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/21] x86/pti: Provide C variants of PTI switch CR3 macros Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/21] x86/entry: Fill ESPFIX stack using C code Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/21] x86/pti: Introduce per-task PTI trampoline stack Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/21] x86/pti: Function to clone page-table entries from a specified mm Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/21] x86/pti: Function to map per-cpu page-table entry Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/21] x86/pti: Extend PTI user mappings Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 19:48   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-16 20:21     ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 23:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-17  8:42         ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-17 15:49           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-19 19:15           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 12/21] x86/pti: Use PTI stack instead of trampoline stack Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 16:57   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-16 18:10     ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 18:34       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-16 19:37         ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-17 15:09         ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-17 15:52           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-17 17:01             ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-19  1:49               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-19  8:05                 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-19 12:06                   ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-19 16:06                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-19 17:02                       ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 21:24       ` David Laight
2020-11-17  8:27         ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-19 19:10       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-19 19:55         ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-19 21:20           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-24  7:20   ` [x86/pti] 5da9e742d1: PANIC:double_fault kernel test robot
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/21] x86/pti: Execute syscall functions on the kernel stack Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 14/21] x86/pti: Execute IDT handlers " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 15/21] x86/pti: Execute IDT handlers with error code " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 16/21] x86/pti: Execute system vector handlers " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 17/21] x86/pti: Execute page fault handler " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 18/21] x86/pti: Execute NMI " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 19/21] x86/pti: Defer CR3 switch to C code for IST entries Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 20/21] x86/pti: Defer CR3 switch to C code for non-IST and syscall entries Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 21/21] x86/pti: Use a different stack canary with the user and kernel page-table Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 16:56   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-16 18:34     ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 20:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 00/21] x86/pti: Defer CR3 switch to C code Borislav Petkov
2020-11-17  7:56   ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-17 16:55     ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-17 18:12       ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-17 18:28         ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-17 19:02           ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-17 21:23             ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-18  7:08               ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-17 21:26         ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-18  7:41           ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-18  9:30             ` David Laight [this message]
2020-11-18 10:29               ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-18 13:22                 ` David Laight
2020-11-18 17:15                   ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-18 11:29             ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-18 19:37               ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 20:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-17  8:19   ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-17 17:07     ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-17 18:24       ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-19 19:32     ` Thomas Gleixner

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