From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>, <bcollins@debian.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: BK MetaData License Problem?
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 14:18:24 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0210061410540.5162-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021006.045201.26534685.davem@redhat.com>
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, David S. Miller wrote:
> Anything you write is automatically copyrighted by you, even if you
> don't specifically state it as such.
>
> That is my basic understanding of copyright law.
>
> BitMover et al. can't take your copyright powers away from you.
yes, this is my understanding as well, but the BK license can require you
to license your bits in exchange for allowing you to use the BK product.
It already does require 'republishing rights' for the metadata bits in
fact. (which is a perfectly fair requirement - Larry needs this assurance
to be able to host bkbits in a legally safe way.)
the issue is that in the BK repository data and metadata is distinctly
separate. The Linux kernel is fully functional without any of the
metadata, and the GPL only covers the Linux kernel.
And i'd like note it that this situation is not "BK's fault" in any way,
it's simply the thing that copyright law says about not explicitly
licensed bits. But it's a situation created by BK, and it could be
eliminated by the BK license requiring the metadata to be licensed under
the same conditions the data itself is licensed. Or we could put this into
the Linux kernel license. (which OTOH might violate the GPL.)
i'm sure this issue was raised before - eg. what is the legal standing of
the commit messages of the BSD kernels?
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-06 12:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 230+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-04 20:55 New BK License Problem? tom_gall
2002-10-04 21:08 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-04 21:33 ` tom_gall
2002-10-04 21:38 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-04 22:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2002-10-04 22:36 ` Roman Zippel
2002-10-05 0:04 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-05 0:32 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-05 1:54 ` John Levon
2002-10-05 10:26 ` Roman Zippel
2002-10-05 10:23 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-05 0:50 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-06 2:17 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-10-04 23:02 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-04 23:33 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-04 23:28 ` David S. Miller
[not found] ` <20021005003840.GQ710@gallifrey>
[not found] ` <20021004174501.Q835@work.bitmover.com>
[not found] ` <20021005005344.GR710@gallifrey>
[not found] ` <20021004180600.R835@work.bitmover.com>
[not found] ` <20021005011706.GU710@gallifrey>
[not found] ` <20021004185325.V835@work.bitmover.com>
2002-10-05 11:54 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2002-10-05 17:54 ` Ben Collins
2002-10-05 18:25 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-05 18:35 ` Ben Collins
2002-10-05 18:41 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-10-05 19:06 ` Ben Collins
2002-10-05 19:24 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-10-05 19:43 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-05 19:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-10-06 0:42 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-05 20:21 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-10-05 23:28 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-05 23:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-05 23:44 ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-05 23:53 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 3:40 ` Jan Harkes
2002-10-06 8:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-06 8:46 ` Skip Ford
2002-10-06 9:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-06 9:24 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-06 14:03 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 14:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 15:27 ` Skip Ford
2002-10-08 21:13 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-08 22:04 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-08 22:06 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-08 22:15 ` Skip Ford
2002-10-08 22:53 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-08 22:25 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-08 22:15 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-08 22:24 ` Dave Jones
2002-10-08 22:20 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-08 22:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-08 22:26 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-08 22:45 ` Dave Jones
2002-10-09 0:51 ` BK kernel commits list David S. Miller
2002-10-09 11:49 ` Skip Ford
2002-10-09 11:58 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-09 12:17 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-09 12:12 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-09 14:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-09 14:44 ` Ben Collins
2002-10-09 14:55 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-09 14:58 ` Ben Collins
2002-10-09 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-09 19:59 ` Robert Love
2002-10-09 20:32 ` Skip Ford
2002-10-09 20:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-09 19:59 ` Ben Collins
2002-10-09 20:52 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-09 21:02 ` Robert Love
2002-10-09 20:41 ` David Woodhouse
2002-10-06 0:49 ` New BK License Problem? Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 4:43 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-06 5:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-06 7:43 ` Skip Ford
2002-10-06 8:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-06 9:21 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-06 16:38 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-10-06 17:02 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-06 17:12 ` Russell King
2002-10-06 21:06 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 17:03 ` Skip Ford
2002-10-06 23:05 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-07 0:42 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-06 8:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-06 11:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 10:57 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-06 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 10:59 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-06 12:04 ` BK MetaData " Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 11:52 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-06 12:18 ` jbradford
2002-10-06 12:35 ` jw schultz
2002-10-06 12:18 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2002-10-06 16:18 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-10-06 13:48 ` Russell King
2002-10-06 14:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 14:08 ` Russell King
2002-10-06 16:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-06 17:06 ` jbradford
2002-10-06 19:12 ` Marek Habersack
2002-10-06 14:23 ` jbradford
2002-10-06 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-06 20:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 22:52 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-07 6:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-07 6:07 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 17:17 ` Jes Sorensen
2002-10-06 17:38 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 17:41 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-06 17:45 ` Jes Sorensen
2002-10-06 22:49 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 12:10 ` New BK " Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 4:25 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-06 9:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-06 3:35 ` Jan Harkes
2002-10-05 19:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-10-05 19:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-05 19:56 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-07 2:01 ` Ben Collins
2002-10-07 2:10 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-07 2:29 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-07 2:38 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-07 3:07 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-10 3:48 ` rsync kernel tree " jw schultz
2002-10-06 22:03 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-10-06 22:33 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 22:45 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-10-06 22:59 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 23:15 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-07 19:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-10-07 20:19 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-07 20:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-10-07 20:37 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-07 20:54 ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-10-07 21:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-08 9:11 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-10-08 1:05 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-06 0:34 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 0:45 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-05 19:15 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-05 19:46 ` jbradford
2002-10-06 22:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-06 23:54 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-06 22:57 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 22:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-06 13:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 13:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 14:56 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 15:15 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 15:39 ` Alexandre Dulaunoy
2002-10-07 1:21 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-07 6:29 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-07 2:27 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-07 15:43 ` Jan Harkes
2002-10-07 16:06 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-07 16:18 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 16:30 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-10-07 9:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-10-07 14:50 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-07 18:45 ` Abramo Bagnara
2002-10-06 21:31 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-10-06 22:05 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 22:16 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 22:19 ` Robert Love
2002-10-06 22:36 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 23:22 ` Hans Reiser
2002-10-06 13:59 ` Ben Collins
2002-10-06 14:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 14:53 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-06 15:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 22:11 ` BK is *evil* corporate software [was Re: New BK License Problem?] Pavel Machek
2002-10-07 18:49 ` BK is *evil* corporate software David S. Miller
2002-10-07 20:12 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-07 20:14 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-07 21:23 ` Roman Zippel
2002-10-07 18:51 ` BK is *evil* corporate software [was Re: New BK License Problem?] Mike Galbraith
2002-10-07 21:31 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-09 23:34 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-09 23:50 ` BK is *evil* corporate software David S. Miller
2002-10-10 1:08 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-10 1:47 ` Keith Owens
2002-10-10 8:09 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2002-10-10 8:28 ` Off topic, bandwidth wasting, waffle about Bit Keeper jbradford
2002-10-09 23:55 ` BK is *evil* corporate software [was Re: New BK License Problem?] Larry McVoy
2002-10-10 3:50 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-10 4:16 ` Derek D. Martin
2002-10-10 4:56 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-10 7:33 ` Jirka David
2002-10-10 7:26 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-10 13:36 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-10 14:04 ` yodaiken
2002-10-10 16:14 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-10 16:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-10 16:52 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-10 17:28 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-10 16:38 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-10 18:57 ` Eli Carter
2002-10-10 19:01 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-10 0:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-10-10 7:31 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-07 18:56 ` tom_gall
2002-10-07 20:44 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-07 20:55 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-07 21:28 ` BK is *evil* corporate software tom_gall
2002-10-07 21:36 ` BK is *evil* corporate software [was Re: New BK License Problem?] Alexander Viro
2002-10-17 17:52 ` 2.5.43 disk repartitioning problems Dave Olien
2002-10-17 18:04 ` Dave Olien
2002-10-18 19:45 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-18 22:17 ` Dave Olien
2002-10-19 17:39 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-07 20:30 ` BK is *evil* corporate software [was Re: New BK License Problem?] Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 0:27 ` New BK License Problem? Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 0:32 ` Ben Collins
2002-10-06 0:53 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-05 13:10 ` Hans Reiser
2002-10-05 22:53 ` Murray J. Root
2002-10-05 23:21 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-05 23:49 ` Murray J. Root
2002-10-06 0:48 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-06 19:21 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-05 13:17 ` Hans Reiser
2002-10-05 13:48 ` FD Cami
2002-10-05 13:41 ` Hans Reiser
2002-10-06 12:40 BK MetaData " Manfred Spraul
2002-10-06 13:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-10-06 15:48 ` Marek Habersack
2002-10-06 16:26 ` Manfred Spraul
2002-10-06 19:11 ` Marek Habersack
2002-10-06 16:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-06 16:22 ` Larry McVoy
2002-10-07 0:11 Hell.Surfers
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