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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: "Christoph Müllner" <christophm30@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>, Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Guo Ren <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>,
	will.deacon@arm.com, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 11:45:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210413104503.GD15806@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHB2gtTzEuD7j-+5ztui0eV6UNiEisBTgoK+2Sr=Z0b4PPXRyA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 12:25:00PM +0200, Christoph Müllner wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:37 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:22:40AM +0200, Christoph Müllner wrote:
> > > What about trylock()?
> > > I.e. one could implement trylock() without a loop, by letting
> > > trylock() fail if the SC fails.
> > > That looks safe on first view, but nobody does this right now.
> >
> > Generic code has to use cmpxchg(), and then you get something like this:
> >
> > bool trylock(atomic_t *lock)
> > {
> >         u32 old = atomic_read(lock);
> >
> >         if ((old >> 16) != (old & 0xffff))
> >                 return false;
> >
> >         return atomic_try_cmpxchg(lock, &old, old + (1<<16)); /* SC, for RCsc */
> > }
> 
> This approach requires two loads (atomic_read() and cmpxchg()), which
> is not required.
> Detecting this pattern and optimizing it in a compiler is quite unlikely.
> 
> A bit less generic solution would be to wrap the LL/SC (would be
> mandatory in this case)
> instructions and do something like this:
> 
> uint32_t __smp_load_acquire_reserved(void*);
> int __smp_store_release_conditional(void*, uint32_t);
> 
> typedef union {
>     uint32_t v32;
>     struct {
>         uint16_t owner;
>         uint16_t next;
>     };
> } arch_spinlock_t;
> 
> int trylock(arch_spinlock_t *lock)
> {
>     arch_spinlock_t l;
>     int success;
>     do {
>         l.v32 = __smp_load_acquire_reserved(lock);
>         if (l.owner != l.next)
>             return 0;
>         l.next++;
>         success = __smp_store_release_conditional(lock, l.v32);
>     } while (!success);
>     return success;
> }
> 
> But here we can't tell the compiler to optimize the code between LL and SC...

This indeed needs some care. IIUC RISC-V has similar restrictions as arm
here, no load/store instructions are allowed between LR and SC. You
can't guarantee that the compiler won't spill some variable onto the
stack.

BTW, I think the SC doesn't need release semantics above, only the LR
needs acquire semantics.

-- 
Catalin

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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: "Christoph Müllner" <christophm30@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>, Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Guo Ren <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>,
	will.deacon@arm.com, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 11:45:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210413104503.GD15806@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHB2gtTzEuD7j-+5ztui0eV6UNiEisBTgoK+2Sr=Z0b4PPXRyA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 12:25:00PM +0200, Christoph Müllner wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:37 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:22:40AM +0200, Christoph Müllner wrote:
> > > What about trylock()?
> > > I.e. one could implement trylock() without a loop, by letting
> > > trylock() fail if the SC fails.
> > > That looks safe on first view, but nobody does this right now.
> >
> > Generic code has to use cmpxchg(), and then you get something like this:
> >
> > bool trylock(atomic_t *lock)
> > {
> >         u32 old = atomic_read(lock);
> >
> >         if ((old >> 16) != (old & 0xffff))
> >                 return false;
> >
> >         return atomic_try_cmpxchg(lock, &old, old + (1<<16)); /* SC, for RCsc */
> > }
> 
> This approach requires two loads (atomic_read() and cmpxchg()), which
> is not required.
> Detecting this pattern and optimizing it in a compiler is quite unlikely.
> 
> A bit less generic solution would be to wrap the LL/SC (would be
> mandatory in this case)
> instructions and do something like this:
> 
> uint32_t __smp_load_acquire_reserved(void*);
> int __smp_store_release_conditional(void*, uint32_t);
> 
> typedef union {
>     uint32_t v32;
>     struct {
>         uint16_t owner;
>         uint16_t next;
>     };
> } arch_spinlock_t;
> 
> int trylock(arch_spinlock_t *lock)
> {
>     arch_spinlock_t l;
>     int success;
>     do {
>         l.v32 = __smp_load_acquire_reserved(lock);
>         if (l.owner != l.next)
>             return 0;
>         l.next++;
>         success = __smp_store_release_conditional(lock, l.v32);
>     } while (!success);
>     return success;
> }
> 
> But here we can't tell the compiler to optimize the code between LL and SC...

This indeed needs some care. IIUC RISC-V has similar restrictions as arm
here, no load/store instructions are allowed between LR and SC. You
can't guarantee that the compiler won't spill some variable onto the
stack.

BTW, I think the SC doesn't need release semantics above, only the LR
needs acquire semantics.

-- 
Catalin

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-13 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-24 10:14 [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation guoren
2021-03-24 10:14 ` guoren
2021-03-24 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 11:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:10   ` Guo Ren
2021-03-24 12:10     ` Guo Ren
     [not found] ` <CAM4kBBK7_s9U2vJbq68yC8WdDEfPQTaCOvn1xds3Si5B-Wpw+A@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-24 12:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:24   ` Guo Ren
2021-03-24 12:24     ` Guo Ren
2021-03-24 12:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:28 ` Anup Patel
2021-03-24 12:28   ` Anup Patel
2021-03-24 12:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:53     ` Anup Patel
2021-03-24 12:53       ` Anup Patel
2021-04-11 21:11       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-11 21:11         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-12 13:32         ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 13:32           ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 14:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 14:51             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 21:21             ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 21:21               ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 17:33           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-12 17:33             ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-12 21:54             ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 21:54               ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  8:03               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  8:03                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  8:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  8:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  2:26                   ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  2:26                     ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  7:08                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  7:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  9:05                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  9:05                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 10:16                         ` [RFC][PATCH] locking: Generic ticket-lock Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 10:16                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 12:39                           ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14 12:39                             ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14 12:55                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 12:55                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 13:08                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 13:08                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 15:59                               ` David Laight
2021-04-14 15:59                                 ` David Laight
2021-04-14 12:45                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 12:45                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 21:02                             ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-14 21:02                               ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-14 20:47                           ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-14 20:47                             ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-15  8:09                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15  8:09                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15  9:02                               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-15  9:02                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-15  9:22                                 ` Will Deacon
2021-04-15  9:22                                   ` Will Deacon
2021-04-15  9:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15  9:24                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-19 17:35                           ` Will Deacon
2021-04-19 17:35                             ` Will Deacon
2021-04-23  6:44                           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-23  6:44                             ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-13  9:22                 ` [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  9:22                   ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  9:30                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13  9:30                     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13  9:55                     ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  9:55                       ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-14  0:23                     ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  0:23                       ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  9:17                       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-14  9:17                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13  9:35                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  9:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13 10:25                     ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 10:25                       ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 10:45                       ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2021-04-13 10:45                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13 10:54                         ` David Laight
2021-04-13 10:54                           ` David Laight
2021-04-14  5:54                           ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  5:54                             ` Guo Ren
2021-04-13 11:04                         ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 11:04                           ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 13:19                       ` Guo Ren
2021-04-13 13:19                         ` Guo Ren
2021-09-19 16:53 guoren
2021-09-19 16:53 ` guoren
2021-09-25 14:47 ` Guo Ren
2021-09-25 14:47   ` Guo Ren
2021-10-21 13:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-21 13:13     ` Peter Zijlstra

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