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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
Cc: "Christoph Müllner" <christophm30@gmail.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Anup Patel" <anup@brainfault.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Guo Ren" <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Jonas Bonn" <jonas@southpole.se>,
	"Stefan Kristiansson" <stefan.kristiansson@saunalahti.fi>,
	"Stafford Horne" <shorne@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] locking: Generic ticket-lock
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:08:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHbpUtIWaaP1Qod1@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YHbmXXvuG442ZDfN@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 02:55:57PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 08:39:33PM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:

> > > + * It further assumes atomic_*_release() + atomic_*_acquire() is RCpc and hence
> > > + * uses atomic_fetch_add() which is SC to create an RCsc lock.
> 
> This ^^^ then vvv
> 
> > > +static __always_inline void ticket_lock(arch_spinlock_t *lock)
> > > +{
> > > +       u32 val = atomic_fetch_add(1<<16, lock); /* SC, gives us RCsc */
> > atomic_fetch_add_acquire ?
> 
> Then we must rely on the arch to implement RCsc atomics. And I for one
> can never tell wth Risc-V actually does.

Anyway, if we can mandate that atomic acquire/release is RCsc, then yes
we can do that but then we also need:

#define smp_mb__after_spinlock()	smp_mb__after_atomic()

But currently atomic acquire/release is not RCsc (at the very least
Power does RCtso -- and power gets to deal with any and all pain caused
by that).

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
Cc: "Christoph Müllner" <christophm30@gmail.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Anup Patel" <anup@brainfault.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Guo Ren" <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Jonas Bonn" <jonas@southpole.se>,
	"Stefan Kristiansson" <stefan.kristiansson@saunalahti.fi>,
	"Stafford Horne" <shorne@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] locking: Generic ticket-lock
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:08:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHbpUtIWaaP1Qod1@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YHbmXXvuG442ZDfN@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 02:55:57PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 08:39:33PM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:

> > > + * It further assumes atomic_*_release() + atomic_*_acquire() is RCpc and hence
> > > + * uses atomic_fetch_add() which is SC to create an RCsc lock.
> 
> This ^^^ then vvv
> 
> > > +static __always_inline void ticket_lock(arch_spinlock_t *lock)
> > > +{
> > > +       u32 val = atomic_fetch_add(1<<16, lock); /* SC, gives us RCsc */
> > atomic_fetch_add_acquire ?
> 
> Then we must rely on the arch to implement RCsc atomics. And I for one
> can never tell wth Risc-V actually does.

Anyway, if we can mandate that atomic acquire/release is RCsc, then yes
we can do that but then we also need:

#define smp_mb__after_spinlock()	smp_mb__after_atomic()

But currently atomic acquire/release is not RCsc (at the very least
Power does RCtso -- and power gets to deal with any and all pain caused
by that).

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-24 10:14 [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation guoren
2021-03-24 10:14 ` guoren
2021-03-24 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 11:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:10   ` Guo Ren
2021-03-24 12:10     ` Guo Ren
     [not found] ` <CAM4kBBK7_s9U2vJbq68yC8WdDEfPQTaCOvn1xds3Si5B-Wpw+A@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-24 12:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:24   ` Guo Ren
2021-03-24 12:24     ` Guo Ren
2021-03-24 12:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:28 ` Anup Patel
2021-03-24 12:28   ` Anup Patel
2021-03-24 12:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:53     ` Anup Patel
2021-03-24 12:53       ` Anup Patel
2021-04-11 21:11       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-11 21:11         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-12 13:32         ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 13:32           ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 14:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 14:51             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 21:21             ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 21:21               ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 17:33           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-12 17:33             ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-12 21:54             ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 21:54               ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  8:03               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  8:03                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  8:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  8:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  2:26                   ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  2:26                     ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  7:08                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  7:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  9:05                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  9:05                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 10:16                         ` [RFC][PATCH] locking: Generic ticket-lock Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 10:16                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 12:39                           ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14 12:39                             ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14 12:55                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 12:55                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 13:08                               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-04-14 13:08                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 15:59                               ` David Laight
2021-04-14 15:59                                 ` David Laight
2021-04-14 12:45                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 12:45                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 21:02                             ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-14 21:02                               ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-14 20:47                           ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-14 20:47                             ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-15  8:09                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15  8:09                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15  9:02                               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-15  9:02                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-15  9:22                                 ` Will Deacon
2021-04-15  9:22                                   ` Will Deacon
2021-04-15  9:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15  9:24                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-19 17:35                           ` Will Deacon
2021-04-19 17:35                             ` Will Deacon
2021-04-23  6:44                           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-23  6:44                             ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-13  9:22                 ` [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  9:22                   ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  9:30                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13  9:30                     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13  9:55                     ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  9:55                       ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-14  0:23                     ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  0:23                       ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  9:17                       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-14  9:17                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13  9:35                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  9:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13 10:25                     ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 10:25                       ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 10:45                       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13 10:45                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13 10:54                         ` David Laight
2021-04-13 10:54                           ` David Laight
2021-04-14  5:54                           ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  5:54                             ` Guo Ren
2021-04-13 11:04                         ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 11:04                           ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 13:19                       ` Guo Ren
2021-04-13 13:19                         ` Guo Ren

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