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From: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Christoph Müllner" <christophm30@gmail.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Anup Patel" <anup@brainfault.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Guo Ren" <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"will.deacon@arm.com" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 13:54:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJF2gTTE54rDfFeVGbc0BL7br3hy+6oN6KMFQDx5+aKPSSviKw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73cab48b63ea4ba3b1ef532f47d146f4@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 6:54 PM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
>
> From: Catalin Marinas
> > Sent: 13 April 2021 11:45
> ...
> > This indeed needs some care. IIUC RISC-V has similar restrictions as arm
> > here, no load/store instructions are allowed between LR and SC. You
> > can't guarantee that the compiler won't spill some variable onto the
> > stack.
>
> You can probably never guarantee the compiler won't spill to stack.
> Especially if someone compiles with -O0.
>
> Which probably means that anything using LR/SC must be written in
> asm and the C wrappers disabled.
Agree, and cmpxchg has been widely used in Linux. I think it's the
last requirement for complex atomic API, although cmpxchg has ABA
problem:

CPU0
                          CPU1
=======
                        ======
do {
  old32 = load32;

                               *ptr32 = new32_tmp;

                               *ptr32 = old32;
  load32 = cmpxchg(ptr32, old32, new32); //still success
} while (load32 != old32);

That means cmpxhg only cares about the result but not the middle
situation. It's different from LR/SC or AMO instructions.

>
>         David
>
> -
> Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
> Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)
>


-- 
Best Regards
 Guo Ren

ML: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-csky/

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Christoph Müllner" <christophm30@gmail.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Anup Patel" <anup@brainfault.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Guo Ren" <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"will.deacon@arm.com" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 13:54:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJF2gTTE54rDfFeVGbc0BL7br3hy+6oN6KMFQDx5+aKPSSviKw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73cab48b63ea4ba3b1ef532f47d146f4@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 6:54 PM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
>
> From: Catalin Marinas
> > Sent: 13 April 2021 11:45
> ...
> > This indeed needs some care. IIUC RISC-V has similar restrictions as arm
> > here, no load/store instructions are allowed between LR and SC. You
> > can't guarantee that the compiler won't spill some variable onto the
> > stack.
>
> You can probably never guarantee the compiler won't spill to stack.
> Especially if someone compiles with -O0.
>
> Which probably means that anything using LR/SC must be written in
> asm and the C wrappers disabled.
Agree, and cmpxchg has been widely used in Linux. I think it's the
last requirement for complex atomic API, although cmpxchg has ABA
problem:

CPU0
                          CPU1
=======
                        ======
do {
  old32 = load32;

                               *ptr32 = new32_tmp;

                               *ptr32 = old32;
  load32 = cmpxchg(ptr32, old32, new32); //still success
} while (load32 != old32);

That means cmpxhg only cares about the result but not the middle
situation. It's different from LR/SC or AMO instructions.

>
>         David
>
> -
> Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
> Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)
>


-- 
Best Regards
 Guo Ren

ML: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-csky/

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-24 10:14 [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation guoren
2021-03-24 10:14 ` guoren
2021-03-24 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 11:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:10   ` Guo Ren
2021-03-24 12:10     ` Guo Ren
     [not found] ` <CAM4kBBK7_s9U2vJbq68yC8WdDEfPQTaCOvn1xds3Si5B-Wpw+A@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-24 12:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:24   ` Guo Ren
2021-03-24 12:24     ` Guo Ren
2021-03-24 12:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:28 ` Anup Patel
2021-03-24 12:28   ` Anup Patel
2021-03-24 12:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-24 12:53     ` Anup Patel
2021-03-24 12:53       ` Anup Patel
2021-04-11 21:11       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-11 21:11         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-12 13:32         ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 13:32           ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 14:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 14:51             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 21:21             ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 21:21               ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 17:33           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-12 17:33             ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-12 21:54             ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-12 21:54               ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  8:03               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  8:03                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  8:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  8:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  2:26                   ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  2:26                     ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  7:08                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  7:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  9:05                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14  9:05                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 10:16                         ` [RFC][PATCH] locking: Generic ticket-lock Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 10:16                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 12:39                           ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14 12:39                             ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14 12:55                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 12:55                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 13:08                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 13:08                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 15:59                               ` David Laight
2021-04-14 15:59                                 ` David Laight
2021-04-14 12:45                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 12:45                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-14 21:02                             ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-14 21:02                               ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-14 20:47                           ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-14 20:47                             ` Stafford Horne
2021-04-15  8:09                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15  8:09                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15  9:02                               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-15  9:02                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-15  9:22                                 ` Will Deacon
2021-04-15  9:22                                   ` Will Deacon
2021-04-15  9:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15  9:24                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-19 17:35                           ` Will Deacon
2021-04-19 17:35                             ` Will Deacon
2021-04-23  6:44                           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-23  6:44                             ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-04-13  9:22                 ` [PATCH] riscv: locks: introduce ticket-based spinlock implementation Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  9:22                   ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  9:30                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13  9:30                     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13  9:55                     ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13  9:55                       ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-14  0:23                     ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  0:23                       ` Guo Ren
2021-04-14  9:17                       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-14  9:17                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13  9:35                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13  9:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13 10:25                     ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 10:25                       ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 10:45                       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13 10:45                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-04-13 10:54                         ` David Laight
2021-04-13 10:54                           ` David Laight
2021-04-14  5:54                           ` Guo Ren [this message]
2021-04-14  5:54                             ` Guo Ren
2021-04-13 11:04                         ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 11:04                           ` Christoph Müllner
2021-04-13 13:19                       ` Guo Ren
2021-04-13 13:19                         ` Guo Ren
2021-09-19 16:53 guoren
2021-09-19 16:53 ` guoren
2021-09-25 14:47 ` Guo Ren
2021-09-25 14:47   ` Guo Ren
2021-10-21 13:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-21 13:13     ` Peter Zijlstra

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