From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: karderio <karderio@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19]
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:53:23 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612151750510.3849@woody.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061216012721.47be92f3@localhost.localdomain>
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, Alan wrote:
> > blather and idiotic hogwash. "Information" doesn't want to be free, nor is
> > it somethign you should fight for or necessarily even encourage.
>
> As a pedant that is the one item I have to pick you up on Linus.
> Information wants to be free, the natural efficient economic state of
> information is generally free in both senses.
I would say that that is a different thing. It "takes effort" to actually
hide information, so in that sense, it's actually more expensive to try to
keep it "non-free".
But that has nothing to do with the FSF kind of "freedom", the same way
"no price" has nothing to do with that freedom.
So "information wants to be free" is more about "free as in beer", I'd
argue. Trying to suppress information (or spread mis-information) takes
real effort.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-16 1:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-15 23:56 GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] karderio
2006-12-16 0:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 1:27 ` Alan
2006-12-16 1:53 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-12-16 3:59 ` jdow
2006-12-16 17:08 ` David Nicol
2006-12-20 19:46 ` Lord of the code! [was: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19]] Steven Rostedt
2006-12-20 20:27 ` alan
2006-12-16 2:32 ` GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] karderio
2006-12-16 2:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 6:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 10:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-12-16 10:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 11:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-12-16 15:15 ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-17 11:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-16 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 14:42 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-16 16:30 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 20:23 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-16 21:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 16:54 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-12-16 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 16:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 18:33 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-17 1:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-17 3:06 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-17 20:23 ` Gerhard Mack
2006-12-21 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-18 21:04 ` karderio
2006-12-18 22:05 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-18 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-18 22:42 ` Scott Preece
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-22 11:48 Niklas Steinkamp
2006-12-18 2:43 Brendan Scott
2006-12-16 18:27 Ricardo Galli
2006-12-16 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-17 0:22 ` Ricardo Galli
2006-12-17 4:10 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-13 19:52 [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19 Greg KH
2006-12-13 20:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-13 20:38 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-13 21:02 ` Greg KH
2006-12-13 21:32 ` Martin Bligh
2006-12-13 21:47 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-13 22:09 ` GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Greg KH
2006-12-14 0:32 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 0:43 ` Jonathan Corbet
2006-12-14 0:55 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 1:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 1:08 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-14 1:30 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-12-14 1:58 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 5:39 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-12-14 6:01 ` Hua Zhong
2006-12-14 11:14 ` Alan
2006-12-14 11:31 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 12:42 ` Alan
2006-12-14 12:54 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 16:59 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 18:26 ` Alan
2006-12-14 21:16 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 12:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 13:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-14 17:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-17 10:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-14 8:03 ` James Morris
2006-12-14 15:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-14 20:08 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-15 14:05 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-12-17 10:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-17 10:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-12-19 12:57 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-12-19 13:56 ` Diego Calleja
2006-12-19 16:46 ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-19 17:11 ` Bill Nottingham
2006-12-19 17:24 ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-19 17:13 ` Diego Calleja
2006-12-20 5:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-20 19:29 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-20 20:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-20 21:10 ` alan
2006-12-21 15:34 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-12-21 16:43 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-21 19:28 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-24 3:11 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-20 4:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-12-14 13:07 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 15:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-14 16:11 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 16:31 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-14 15:36 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-12-14 17:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 14:12 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 15:10 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-12-14 16:09 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 16:36 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 17:34 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 19:29 ` Michael Buesch
2006-12-14 20:19 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 7:24 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2006-12-14 8:21 ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-14 11:25 ` Alan
2006-12-14 14:53 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-14 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 17:33 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-14 18:01 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-12-14 18:12 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-14 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 18:30 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-14 9:34 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-12-24 11:57 ` Mark Hounschell
2006-12-24 13:22 ` Sean
2006-12-24 14:42 ` Mark Hounschell
2006-12-14 10:49 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-12-14 13:04 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 13:46 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 17:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 17:49 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 15:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 17:08 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-14 17:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-12-14 17:52 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-14 18:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 18:15 ` Eric Sandeen
2006-12-14 18:39 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-14 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 19:42 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-14 19:34 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-15 10:13 ` Eduard Bloch
2006-12-15 17:44 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-18 10:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-18 17:05 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-14 19:49 ` Hua Zhong
2006-12-17 10:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-14 16:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-14 16:33 ` Alan
2006-12-14 16:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-14 17:17 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-14 18:18 ` Alan
2006-12-14 19:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-21 15:38 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-23 11:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-23 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-24 1:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-14 5:10 ` Bill Nottingham
2006-12-14 8:48 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 14:02 ` Rik van Riel
2006-12-14 15:42 ` Chris Friesen
2006-12-14 15:47 ` Alan
2006-12-14 15:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 22:21 ` Dave Airlie
2006-12-14 22:26 ` Michael Buesch
2006-12-14 22:39 ` Dave Airlie
2006-12-14 22:45 ` Michael Buesch
2006-12-14 19:32 ` Bill Nottingham
2006-12-14 5:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-12-14 7:54 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-14 8:21 ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-14 10:36 ` Alan
2006-12-14 14:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-24 14:27 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-24 19:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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