From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To: "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19]
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:08:11 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKCEAPAGAC.davids@webmaster.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061214153949.GA3388@stusta.de>
> And there's also the common misconception all costumers had enough
> information when buying something. If you are a normal Linux user and
> buy some hardware labelled "runs under Linux", it could turn out that's
> with a Windows driver running under ndiswrapper...
That is something that I think is well worth fixing. Doesn't Linus own the
trademark 'Linux'? How about some rules for use of that trademark and a
'Works with Linux' logo that can only be used if the hardware specifications
are provided?
Let them provide a closed-source driver if they want. Let them provide
user-space applications for which no source is provided if they want. But
don't let them use the logo unless they release sufficient information to
allow people to develop their own drivers and applications to interface with
the hardware.
That makes it clear that it's not about giving us the fruits of years of
your own work but that it's about enabling us to do our own work. (I would
have no objection to also requiring them to provide a minimal open-source
driver. I'm not trying to work out the exact terms here, just get the idea
out.)
DS
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-14 20:08 UTC|newest]
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2006-12-13 19:52 [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19 Greg KH
[not found] ` <1166039585152-git-send-email-greg@kroah.com>
[not found] ` <11660395913232-git-send-email-greg@kroah.com>
[not found] ` <11660395951158-git-send-email-greg@kroah.com>
[not found] ` <11660395998-git-send-email-greg@kroah.com>
2006-12-13 19:52 ` [PATCH 5/14] Driver core: show "initstate" of module Greg KH
2006-12-13 19:52 ` [PATCH 6/14] driver core: delete virtual directory on class_unregister() Greg KH
2006-12-13 19:52 ` [PATCH 7/14] DebugFS : inotify create/mkdir support Greg KH
2006-12-13 19:52 ` [PATCH 8/14] DebugFS : coding style fixes Greg KH
2006-12-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 9/14] DebugFS : file/directory creation error handling Greg KH
2006-12-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 10/14] DebugFS : more " Greg KH
2006-12-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 11/14] DebugFS : file/directory removal fix Greg KH
2006-12-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 12/14] Driver core: "platform_driver_probe() can save codespace": save codespace Greg KH
2006-12-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 13/14] Driver core: Make platform_device_add_data accept a const pointer Greg KH
2006-12-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 14/14] Driver core: deprecate PM_LEGACY, default it to N Greg KH
2006-12-13 20:12 ` [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19 Linus Torvalds
2006-12-13 20:31 ` Greg KH
2006-12-13 20:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-13 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-13 21:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-14 9:30 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-12-14 10:13 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-13 21:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-13 21:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-13 23:40 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 8:49 ` Duncan Sands
2006-12-14 9:56 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 11:51 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-14 12:45 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 19:16 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-14 12:39 ` Alan
2006-12-14 13:08 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 17:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 17:17 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 17:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-16 20:13 ` Lee Revell
2006-12-16 20:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 17:34 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-14 17:47 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 17:59 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-12-14 12:27 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-12-13 20:38 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-13 21:02 ` Greg KH
2006-12-13 21:32 ` Martin Bligh
2006-12-13 21:47 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-13 22:09 ` GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Greg KH
2006-12-14 0:32 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 0:43 ` Jonathan Corbet
2006-12-14 0:55 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 1:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 1:08 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-14 1:30 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-12-14 1:58 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 5:39 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-12-14 6:01 ` Hua Zhong
2006-12-14 11:14 ` Alan
2006-12-14 11:31 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 12:42 ` Alan
2006-12-14 12:54 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2006-12-14 16:59 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 18:26 ` Alan
2006-12-14 21:16 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 12:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 13:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-14 17:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-17 10:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-14 8:03 ` James Morris
2006-12-14 15:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-14 20:08 ` David Schwartz [this message]
2006-12-15 14:05 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-12-17 10:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-17 10:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-12-19 12:57 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-12-19 13:56 ` Diego Calleja
2006-12-19 16:46 ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-19 17:11 ` Bill Nottingham
2006-12-19 17:24 ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-19 17:13 ` Diego Calleja
2006-12-20 5:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-20 19:29 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-20 20:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-20 21:10 ` alan
2006-12-21 15:34 ` Marek Wawrzyczny
2006-12-21 16:43 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-21 19:28 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-24 3:11 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-20 4:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-12-14 13:07 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 15:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-14 16:11 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 16:31 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-14 15:36 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-12-14 17:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 14:12 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 15:10 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-12-14 16:09 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 16:36 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 17:34 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 19:29 ` Michael Buesch
2006-12-14 20:19 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 7:24 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2006-12-14 8:21 ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-14 11:25 ` Alan
2007-01-22 23:37 ` dfsg isn't fsf (Re: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19]) Oleg Verych
2006-12-14 14:53 ` GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Theodore Tso
2006-12-14 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 17:33 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-14 18:01 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-12-14 18:12 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-14 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 18:30 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-14 9:34 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-12-24 11:57 ` Mark Hounschell
2006-12-24 13:22 ` Sean
2006-12-24 14:42 ` Mark Hounschell
2006-12-14 10:49 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-12-14 13:04 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 13:46 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 17:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 17:49 ` Ben Collins
2006-12-14 15:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 17:08 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-14 17:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-12-14 17:52 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-14 18:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 10:28 ` GPL only modules Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-14 18:15 ` GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Eric Sandeen
2006-12-14 18:39 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-14 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 19:42 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-14 19:34 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-15 5:28 ` GPL only modules Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-15 10:13 ` GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Eduard Bloch
2006-12-15 17:44 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-18 10:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-18 17:05 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-14 19:49 ` Hua Zhong
2006-12-17 10:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-14 16:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-14 16:33 ` Alan
2006-12-14 16:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-14 17:17 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-14 18:18 ` Alan
2006-12-14 19:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-21 15:38 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-23 11:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-23 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-24 1:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-19 15:12 ` free module selection Markus Elfring
2006-12-14 5:10 ` GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Bill Nottingham
2006-12-14 8:48 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 14:02 ` Rik van Riel
2006-12-14 15:42 ` Chris Friesen
2006-12-14 15:47 ` Alan
2006-12-14 15:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 22:21 ` Dave Airlie
2006-12-14 22:26 ` Michael Buesch
2006-12-14 22:39 ` Dave Airlie
2006-12-14 22:45 ` Michael Buesch
2006-12-14 19:32 ` Bill Nottingham
2006-12-14 5:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-12-14 7:54 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-14 8:21 ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-14 10:36 ` Alan
2006-12-14 14:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-24 14:27 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-24 19:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-12-13 22:20 ` [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19 Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-13 22:59 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-12-13 23:55 ` Alan
2006-12-14 2:11 ` Al Viro
2006-12-14 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 15:13 ` Rik van Riel
2006-12-13 21:48 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-13 21:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 9:05 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-16 11:04 ` Jörn Engel
2006-12-17 10:49 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-13 21:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-13 21:22 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-13 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 11:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 11:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 18:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-14 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 20:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-14 22:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 23:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-13 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-13 22:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-13 22:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-13 22:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-13 23:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-13 23:39 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-14 0:00 ` Alan
2006-12-13 23:56 ` Alan
2006-12-14 0:08 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 9:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-14 11:33 ` Alan
2006-12-13 22:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-13 22:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-13 23:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-15 23:56 GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] karderio
2006-12-16 0:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 1:27 ` Alan
2006-12-16 1:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 3:59 ` jdow
2006-12-16 17:08 ` David Nicol
2006-12-16 2:32 ` karderio
2006-12-16 2:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 6:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 10:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-12-16 10:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 11:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-12-16 15:15 ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-17 11:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-12-16 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 14:42 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-16 16:30 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 20:23 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-16 21:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 16:54 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-12-16 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 16:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-12-16 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-16 18:33 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-17 1:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-17 3:06 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-17 20:23 ` Gerhard Mack
2006-12-21 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-18 21:04 ` karderio
2006-12-18 22:05 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-18 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-18 22:42 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-16 18:27 Ricardo Galli
2006-12-16 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-17 0:22 ` Ricardo Galli
2006-12-17 4:10 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-18 2:43 Brendan Scott
2006-12-22 11:48 Niklas Steinkamp
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