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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Igor Lubashev <ilubashe@akamai.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"selinux@vger.kernel.org" <selinux@vger.kernel.org>,
	"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/12] Introduce CAP_PERFMON to secure system performance monitoring and observability
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:30:07 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200722113007.GI77866@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d6030a4-ff2c-230c-c36e-d0a8c68832ac@linux.intel.com>

Em Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 04:06:34PM +0300, Alexey Budankov escreveu:
> 
> On 13.07.2020 21:51, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 03:37:51PM +0300, Alexey Budankov escreveu:
> >>
> >> On 13.07.2020 15:17, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> >>> Em Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:48:25PM +0300, Alexey Budankov escreveu:
> >> If it had that patch below then message change would not be required.

> > Sure, but the tool should continue to work and provide useful messages
> > when running on kernels without that change. Pointing to the document is
> > valid and should be done, that is an agreed point. But the tool can do
> > some checks, narrow down the possible causes for the error message and
> > provide something that in most cases will make the user make progress.

> >> However this two sentences in the end of whole message would still add up:
> >> "Please read the 'Perf events and tool security' document:
> >>  https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/perf-security.html"

> > We're in violent agreement here. :-)
 
> Here is the message draft mentioning a) CAP_SYS_PTRACE, for kernels prior
> v5.8, and b) Perf security document link. The plan is to send a patch extending
> perf_events with CAP_PERFMON check [1] for ptrace_may_access() and extending
> the tool with this message.
 
> "Access to performance monitoring and observability operations is limited.
>  Enforced MAC policy settings (SELinux) can limit access to performance
>  monitoring and observability operations. Inspect system audit records for
>  more perf_event access control information and adjusting the policy.
>  Consider adjusting /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid setting to open
>  access to performance monitoring and observability operations for processes
>  without CAP_PERFMON, CAP_SYS_PTRACE or CAP_SYS_ADMIN Linux capability.
>  More information can be found at 'Perf events and tool security' document:
>  https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/perf-security.html
>  perf_event_paranoid setting is -1:
>      -1: Allow use of (almost) all events by all users
>            Ignore mlock limit after perf_event_mlock_kb without CAP_IPC_LOCK
>  >= 0: Disallow raw and ftrace function tracepoint access
>  >= 1: Disallow CPU event access
>  >= 2: Disallow kernel profiling
>  To make the adjusted perf_event_paranoid setting permanent preserve it
>  in /etc/sysctl.conf (e.g. kernel.perf_event_paranoid = <setting>)"

Looks ok! Lots of knobs to control access as one needs.

- Arnaldo
 
> Alexei
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200713121746.GA7029@kernel.org/

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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@linux.ibm.com>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Igor Lubashev <ilubashe@akamai.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"selinux@vger.kernel.org" <selinux@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v8 00/12] Introduce CAP_PERFMON to secure system performance monitoring and observability
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:30:07 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200722113007.GI77866@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d6030a4-ff2c-230c-c36e-d0a8c68832ac@linux.intel.com>

Em Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 04:06:34PM +0300, Alexey Budankov escreveu:
> 
> On 13.07.2020 21:51, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 03:37:51PM +0300, Alexey Budankov escreveu:
> >>
> >> On 13.07.2020 15:17, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> >>> Em Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:48:25PM +0300, Alexey Budankov escreveu:
> >> If it had that patch below then message change would not be required.

> > Sure, but the tool should continue to work and provide useful messages
> > when running on kernels without that change. Pointing to the document is
> > valid and should be done, that is an agreed point. But the tool can do
> > some checks, narrow down the possible causes for the error message and
> > provide something that in most cases will make the user make progress.

> >> However this two sentences in the end of whole message would still add up:
> >> "Please read the 'Perf events and tool security' document:
> >>  https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/perf-security.html"

> > We're in violent agreement here. :-)
 
> Here is the message draft mentioning a) CAP_SYS_PTRACE, for kernels prior
> v5.8, and b) Perf security document link. The plan is to send a patch extending
> perf_events with CAP_PERFMON check [1] for ptrace_may_access() and extending
> the tool with this message.
 
> "Access to performance monitoring and observability operations is limited.
>  Enforced MAC policy settings (SELinux) can limit access to performance
>  monitoring and observability operations. Inspect system audit records for
>  more perf_event access control information and adjusting the policy.
>  Consider adjusting /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid setting to open
>  access to performance monitoring and observability operations for processes
>  without CAP_PERFMON, CAP_SYS_PTRACE or CAP_SYS_ADMIN Linux capability.
>  More information can be found at 'Perf events and tool security' document:
>  https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/perf-security.html
>  perf_event_paranoid setting is -1:
>      -1: Allow use of (almost) all events by all users
>            Ignore mlock limit after perf_event_mlock_kb without CAP_IPC_LOCK
>  >= 0: Disallow raw and ftrace function tracepoint access
>  >= 1: Disallow CPU event access
>  >= 2: Disallow kernel profiling
>  To make the adjusted perf_event_paranoid setting permanent preserve it
>  in /etc/sysctl.conf (e.g. kernel.perf_event_paranoid = <setting>)"

Looks ok! Lots of knobs to control access as one needs.

- Arnaldo
 
> Alexei
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200713121746.GA7029@kernel.org/
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Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-02  8:42 [PATCH v8 00/12] Introduce CAP_PERFMON to secure system performance monitoring and observability Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:42 ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:45 ` [PATCH v8 01/12] capabilities: introduce CAP_PERFMON to kernel and user space Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:45   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] capabilities: Introduce " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:46 ` [PATCH v8 02/12] perf/core: open access to the core for CAP_PERFMON privileged process Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:46   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] perf/core: Open " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:47 ` [PATCH v8 03/12] perf/core: open access to probes " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:47   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:47 ` [PATCH v8 04/12] perf tool: extend Perf tool with CAP_PERFMON capability support Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:47   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-03 11:08   ` Jiri Olsa
2020-04-03 11:08     ` [Intel-gfx] " Jiri Olsa
2020-04-03 13:08     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-04-03 13:08       ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-04  2:18   ` Namhyung Kim
2020-04-04  2:18     ` [Intel-gfx] " Namhyung Kim
2020-04-04  8:18     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-04-04  8:18       ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] perf tools: Support CAP_PERFMON capability tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:48 ` [PATCH v8 05/12] drm/i915/perf: open access for CAP_PERFMON privileged process Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:48   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] drm/i915/perf: Open " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:48 ` [PATCH v8 06/12] trace/bpf_trace: open " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:48   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] trace/bpf_trace: Open " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:49 ` [PATCH v8 07/12] powerpc/perf: open " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:49   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:50 ` [PATCH v8 08/12] parisc/perf: " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:51 ` [PATCH v8 09/12] drivers/perf: " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:51   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] drivers/perf: Open " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:53 ` [PATCH v8 10/12] drivers/oprofile: open " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:53   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] drivers/oprofile: Open " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:54 ` [PATCH v8 11/12] doc/admin-guide: update perf-security.rst with CAP_PERFMON information Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:54   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] doc/admin-guide: Update " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:54 ` [PATCH v8 12/12] doc/admin-guide: update kernel.rst " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  8:54   ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-05 14:10   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-05 14:10     ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-05 14:41     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-04-05 14:41       ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-05 14:54       ` Alexey Budankov
2020-04-05 14:54         ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-05 15:05         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-05 15:05           ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-05 15:51           ` Alexey Budankov
2020-04-05 15:51             ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17   ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-22 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " tip-bot2 for Alexey Budankov
2020-04-02  9:37 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for Introduce CAP_PERFMON to secure system performance monitoring and observability (rev5) Patchwork
2020-04-02 10:02 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2020-04-03 11:24 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure " Patchwork
2020-04-05 16:00 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for Introduce CAP_PERFMON to secure system performance monitoring and observability (rev6) Patchwork
2020-04-07 14:30 ` [PATCH v8 00/12] Introduce CAP_PERFMON to secure system performance monitoring and observability Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 14:30   ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 14:35   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 14:35     ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 14:54     ` Alexey Budankov
2020-04-07 14:54       ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-07 16:36       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 16:36         ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 16:40         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 16:40           ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 17:17           ` Alexey Budankov
2020-04-07 17:17             ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-07 16:52         ` Alexey Budankov
2020-04-07 16:52           ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-07 17:02           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 17:02             ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 17:32             ` Alexey Budankov
2020-04-07 17:32               ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-04-07 16:56         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 16:56           ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 17:23           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-07 17:23             ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-04-22 19:18 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for Introduce CAP_PERFMON to secure system performance monitoring and observability (rev18) Patchwork
2020-04-22 19:43 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork
2020-07-10 13:31 ` [PATCH v8 00/12] Introduce CAP_PERFMON to secure system performance monitoring and observability Ravi Bangoria
2020-07-10 13:31   ` [Intel-gfx] " Ravi Bangoria
2020-07-10 14:30   ` Alexey Budankov
2020-07-10 14:30     ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-07-10 17:09     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-10 17:09       ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-13  9:48       ` Alexey Budankov
2020-07-13  9:48         ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-07-13 12:17         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-13 12:17           ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-13 12:37           ` Alexey Budankov
2020-07-13 12:37             ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-07-13 18:51             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-13 18:51               ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-14 10:59               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-14 10:59                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-14 15:27                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-14 15:27                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-07-21 13:06               ` Alexey Budankov
2020-07-21 13:06                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Alexey Budankov
2020-07-22 11:30                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2020-07-22 11:30                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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